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  1. #1
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mercutial View Post
    Out of ALL the problems mentioned, it's really the aetheryte leeches that bother me the most. So very lazy.....
    The LEAST SE could do is not penalize active hunters. That borders on farce.
    Ironically, do you know how you discourage people from sitting at the aytherites on their butts waiting for the call outs?


    You PULL as soon as enough people who could logically take down the mark arrive....and/or you only share the intell within your close groups (ie party/FC/trusted ls source).

    If mobs were pulled and killed more or less on sight/when enough people show up to kill them, then guess what, people couldn't effectively leech anymore by hanging out at the Aytherite.

    So if you want to take the 'everyone deserves a shot' approach, that's totally fine.
    But just like 'everyone' includes rude people who might not wait to pull...it also includes rude people not willing to actively help look.

    Everyone means everyone. The good, the bad, the ugly. If you don't want to feed the early pullers or the aytherite campers, then you either need to pull far earlier than you likely are as a group or you need to stop sharing intell with outsiders (whoever the 'outsiders' might be to you). If you want the 'everybody gets a shot' to continue, then you need to accept, people are doing this content because they see it as the 'easy way' and it attracts a lot of 'lazy'. And you will be feeding the 'lazy' as well until they get what they want and no longer even wish to wait at the camps for the callouts.


    While I personally feel it's noble and all to wait for others, I also believe it's not necessary beyond 'welp we waited 2 mins and have more than enough ppl here'/ 'we have enough here pull'.
    -And no, I never pulled a mob.
    -And yes, I actually will on my server in /sh call out what I see ...even if get this, I spot it but for whatever reason (like doing a fate/leve/in a queue etc), cannot actually participate in the battle. My point, just because I have no problem with 'early pulls' doesn't mean I support greedy play perse...I'll TELL you where a mob is if I see it, even if I can't get credit for it for whatever reason...just don't scream at each other over it 10 mins later...

    Seriously, I don't care that people want to 'spread the wealth' but, I just want the hate /sh spams to stop. It really is unpleasant, and childish.
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    Last edited by Kinseykinz; 01-31-2015 at 12:26 AM.

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    RichardButte's Avatar
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    Richard Butte
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Ironically, do you know how you discourage people from sitting at the aytherites on their butts waiting for the call outs?
    Sadly, it won't.

    Aetheryte-sitters have the right idea because they just wait until they see an army of people teleport in and run off in one direction. If you're out looking for a hunt mob, you're still likely to get fucked over while the aetheryte-sitters get full credit, thus encouraging you to join them.

    Believe me, I've thought about what you're suggesting, including informing only my FC and having them teleport in at a different aetheryte just to not notify the sitters and teach them a lesson. It's just too unlikely to work, though: I'd basically have to discover the mob first and then have NO ONE ELSE find it in the time between when I find it and my FC members running there from a different aetheryte.

    All things considered, aetheryte-sitting is still the way to go, which is why so many people do it.
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    Last edited by RichardButte; 01-31-2015 at 01:51 AM.