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  1. #461
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I also welcome this change so the economy can pick up and be thriving, also what someone else said they wont lock DOM/W to mastery cause an DOM/W class can never do content solo or manipulate the market solo, but if you have all the DoL/H classes maxed you can currently do that
    If they did this, it would not change anything at all in regard to the economy. All this hypothetical change will do is force me and others like me to do exactly what I do in XI. Have one character for every craft. Yeah it means I pay more, so what? I'll still do it to enjoy the game the way I want to.

    For what it is worth, the problem with our economy is not crafters having multiple/all crafts leveled. It was the ridiculous amount of money spewing forth out of leves for close to a year. People are so loaded with gil, it is going to be impossible at this point to make it have any value. Would you be so welcoming of change if SE decided to cut a hole in your pocketbook to fix the economy instead of attacking crafters for just doing what we enjoy doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I also welcome this change so the economy can pick up and be thriving, also what someone else said they wont lock DOM/W to mastery cause an DOM/W class can never do content solo or manipulate the market solo, but if you have all the DoL/H classes maxed you can currently do that
    you are fooling yourself. the only way to make the economy stronger and start thriving is to have more people playing the game. to say you cannot manipulate the market solo is quite funny seeing as how it's no different to sell an item you made cheaper than everyone else does anymore than selling an item you farmed off a mob for less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    All i have to say to this thread is this:




    So basically if they did limited you to master one DoH/L class they can and they will, cause 85% of the players voted for drastic changes while 91% of NA players voted for this. So if any part of the game you like is being changed and you don't like it you might as well quit now . http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...98e4034b898102

    I also welcome this change so the economy can pick up and be thriving, also what someone else said they wont lock DOM/W to mastery cause an DOM/W class can never do content solo or manipulate the market solo, but if you have all the DoL/H classes maxed you can currently do that
    is not game breaking ,i would not be quitting over this, i dont like it never the less.
    make it so you can only have 1 active mastery with a timer- reroll(only the quests) or sometype of restriction that allows you to change it on the same char.
    Or make it that you can not have more than 1 mule.
    Now that would be nice.

    also, just because we are discussing this does not mean "rage quitting" or " go back to wow , quit already" coments.
    Thats completely unnecessary.
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  4. #464
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    Couldn't let it stay buried.... fine I'll bring mine up too! Mwa ha haa!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    ditto but people are saying if u master it you can do things other people can not. So say u rank up GLA and want PLD then your stuck with PLD only. all of the other master/jobs are locked out.

    SO if u rank up BSM and any other craft u can only master BSM.

    Im saying right now u can master all jobs and i want it to stay that way.
    so even though there is no japanese word that they used to differentiate between "mastering" as in having benefits over someone else at level cap and "mastering" as in just plain reaching max level and since "mastering" doesnt exist in game other than just being max level.... what makes everyone think you can still level all crafts and only master one?

    it seems to me a specific word was used in japanese which was translated as best as possible at the time which really only meant "to limit each player to one maxed out craft"

    wouldnt they have mentioned a bit more about "mastery" if it was literally anything more than just being level cap? like, wouldnt they have at least mentioned something like "which players can reach by completing a quest" or something like that? idk, if there is going to be an actual mastery system in this game i think there would have been a slight bit more mentioned other than just the word "master".
    Yoshi even went "oh i bet this is the first ive mentioned about the new job system" in one of his letters where he just so happen to mention it in a short list of things.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  6. #466
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    @Wynn idc they could round everyone's gil to 1 mil i would not care as long as the game gets better that's all i want for this game.

    @ physic i have no idea what you are talking about but ill say it again it's impossible for DOW/M to manipulate the market solo but it is possible for for DoL/H.

    @ Zkieve: I understand what you are saying, and i agree that they should let you change your master class on a weekly timer or something. Trust me I'm not telling anyone to go back to WoW, I am just tired of seeing people saying if you change this I'm gonna quit, when you, me, SE (probably) does not care. If this change made 10 leave but made 100 people return/buy the game i am all for it.

    Every time i post this in forums no one ever quotes the most important part of the post to me, which is:

    11. Would you welcome changes to FINAL FANTASY XIV that would drastically alter the rules already set in Eorzea?
    Most people know changes are coming and they just seem to ignore it all together, people need to understand that this not going to be the same game tanaka Sold you which was Shit.
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  7. #467
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    wow after all thee pages and two other popular threads i would have thought we would get a reply. i guess not ; ;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Most people know changes are coming and they just seem to ignore it all together, people need to understand that this not going to be the same game tanaka Sold you which was Shit.
    So because we said we're okay with drastic changes they should just change every last thing in the game? Hell just scrap this one and make a new one, we said we wanted drastic changes didn't we? What's more drastic than just shutting the game down and making a new one?

    People are okay with changes as long as they think they are for the good of the game. Personally I don't think mastery adds anything to the game, it doesn't make anything better in my opinion. It just puts more needless restrictions that people who want to will find ways around.
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  9. #469
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    Just let the thread die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLotus View Post
    Just let the thread die.
    FYI posting in the tread does not help it die.
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