WAR tank pure DPS and no defiance in expert run story.

[SirTaint]

Pull size is what matters. If you are pull 6-20 mobs you'll want defiance. If you are doing 3-4 mob pulls defiance won't matter with a competent healer.

For each boss you should be opening with Unchained and Zerk which will lock down hate, then you can defiance off and weave in CDs.

[Synestr]

Pull size is what matters. If you are pull 6-20 mobs you'll want defiance. If you are doing 3-4 mob pulls defiance won't matter with a competent healer.

For each boss you should be opening with Unchained and Zerk which will lock down hate, then you can defiance off and weave in CDs.

That. I have started to do this on bosses. Run in, Unchained, Zerk, smack hard with BB, SE/P, Infuriate > IB then Defiance off. Things go well and are sped up a bit. I am currently working on making myself some new STR acc's to meld. Can only get better, right!?

[SpookyGhost]

If you have a WHM and the mobs you pull can be stunned, after the first stun it's fine to drop Defiance until they start resisting (unless they're nearly dead then you might as well continue OP spam).

Turning off Defiance is a lot tricker than it looks in most cases. If you're costing your healer DPS by making yourself too hard to heal and therefore too hard to multitask, then your increased numbers probably aren't making up for that. You're also giving up your consistent source of mitigation, IB. If you can pull it off and pop your CDs at the right times to make it so you might as well be in Defiance (Vengeance and Thrill + Conv are basically like being in Defiance) then it's a big boon to sit out of Defiance after your Unchained opener. Just don't get too risky or you'll start costing your healers more DPS than you're gaining.

Also if your healer decides they're not going to DPS, then definitely turn off Defiance. :P

[dspguy]

Pull size is what matters.

Small pulls, your healer can keep up. Big pulls, you'll need that heal bonus on your HP.

[Yukariko]

Absolutely think of your healers.