Petition to change "A Tankless Job" Achievment Chain

[Set-Abominae]

There's nothing they can change it to that will increase the tank population. Everything you suggest even the roulette will be exploited, by anyone who wants those ugly mounts, to get as fast as possible. i switched my main to tank maybe 9 months ago first WAR then PLD still don't have either one.

[Bluevann]

Exactly this. I'd really love if they added for example, Low Level Roulette dungeons as duties that feed that achievement.

[myahele]

One thing to consider is that maybe they were thinking about japanese (they're very familiar with) players regarding the intention of the reward.
Apperantly, JPN players use DF are expected to know the mechanics of the instance as to not waste other's time, PF is for learning.

In NA its the oppossite, really.

[ruskie]

You want to know how tanks get those mounts? They farm T4 over and over and over(FC mate did that). There's your tank mount. Gee thanks game now I never need to equip this tank set ever-ever again. The people that actually do the tanking for the rest of us. Those that would deserve these the most. Well they are tanking for the rest of us in HMs, 4 mans and so on and keeping the game going.

I'd split the achievement as someone has mentioned into run a bit of low, bit of high, bit of ex/coil. But at the same time having it retroactive.

[LineageRazor]

You want to know how tanks get those mounts? They farm T4 over and over and over(FC mate did that). There's your tank mount. Gee thanks game now I never need to equip this tank set ever-ever again. The people that actually do the tanking for the rest of us. Those that would deserve these the most. Well they are tanking for the rest of us in HMs, 4 mans and so on and keeping the game going.

I'd split the achievement as someone has mentioned into run a bit of low, bit of high, bit of ex/coil. But at the same time having it retroactive.

SE talked about this phenominon a bit; how as average gear level made things like Garuda Ex and Coils 1, 2, and 4 easy they'd start lifting the bar for this achievement by removing mount credit from the easier instances in order to keep tanks striving for the more difficult instances. So far they haven't done that, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a change like this in the future.

There will always be people who get their mount and then drop the job forever - but at the same time, there will be people who would normally never have tanked who get their mount and find that they're pretty good at tanking, that it isn't as bad as they expected, and that they enjoy the perks it offers (being able to control the pace of an instance to a degree, short queue times, etc).

Regardless of how you look at it, it's hard to argue that the addition of mount rewards did not increase the number of tanks out there at all. Even in the case of your friend, while they were grinding for their mount there was one more tank in the queue for T4 than there would have been otherwise.

[Tiggy]

I'd be ok if there was a second mount for lower content that could be rewarded. Would serve three purposes. Would still show the Lion and Bear as being for helping with harder content. Also, would make tanks who already have those mounts interested in tanking content for people again. Lastly, would put tanks in lower content which is what the OP was hoping for.

[Archadius]

Sure would be nice if "dem cheevz" extended to 4-man content and not just Coil and EX Primals...

[MageBlack]

I agree with this. I love tanking but have issues getting into a static for endgame stuff. Or even have a different reward for the other content. Maybe give us a bear/lion with a laurel wreath on its head... (half joking, half serious)

[Animarelic]

I'm fine with it being exactly the way it is unless they add more gil or tome bonuses for Tanks. I'm not that pressed to put up with rude people for a mount.

[Kosmos992k]

I agree with the OP, I was very disappointed with the way this achievement was handled. The stated aim was to give an incentive to players playing the tank role because there was a shortage of tanks in DF. Yet the achievement is structured in a way that rewards tanks already in pre-made groups for running end-game content, and not the tanks who spend their time actually supporting the majority of the community in Duty Finder.

I understand that the additional rewards through Duty Roulette are designed to help the lower level DF content get tanks, but based on DPS Q times, it's clearly not enough of an incentive. Maybe an achievement with a mount awarded would help, maybe not I don't know to be honest. I do know that I have little to no desire to run the EX primals, and without a static group, coil will always be something I have to defer until it's nerfed to 'normal' level. That's fine, but I suspect I'm not the only player in that position, and I would happily spend a chunk of my time running things through DR if it led to some kind of reward. Perhaps the golden magitek that is awarded for 500 commendations, could be added to with a platinum or silver model awarded for X-hundred duty roulette runs as a tank or healer?