Should Cleric Stance be disabled during Dungeons and Raids?

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

I'm not gonna bother reading 10 pages that's repeating itself. I'll just throw this out there:

So by the logic, if the healers aren't healing shouldn't be dealing damage. The same applies to tanks who aren't tanking at that moment then.

Terrible logic and elaboration, OP :P

[Fawkes]

I play WHM and I kind of wish Cleric Stance didn't exist.

Not because I don't want to dps, I just find it cumbersome. I just wish we didn't have to change stances to do the most healing/damage that we can. Maybe it's because I use a gamepad and already have to swap hotbars to get between healing stuff and dps stuff.

[Jakeson]

Once you get good at stance dancing it is SOOOOOOOO much fun . Don't take that away from me...I simply won't heal.

[Laesha]

PLEASE-GOD-NO

I just got the tips my group needed to reliably push 4 bennus on T12 this morning and cleric stance is an essential part!! ( thanks to any of you that commented on my thread who happen to catch this comment btw ;D )

Please don't take this away from meeee!!! Q_Q I won't go back to 5 bennus. you can't make me!!!

Hyperbole aside though, there's no reason to disable it. If you're running into this issue in a static, please communicate with them and resolve these issues among yourselves. Sometimes that means moving on, or taking a break from raiding. If you're running into this issue with pugs, i'm afraid that's just the nature of pugs. Players with different play styles sometimes just don't click, but that's hardly exclusive to healers. It's just a risk you take puging. If you don't want to dps, just don't. I run into plenty of healers during dungeon runs who don't dps, and it's fine. They generally don't garner my coms, but we complete the dungeon. And for 8 man content, if you're puging a group where you aren't feeling the chemistry, roll the DF'er dice again.

Cleric stance is an amazing tool. I almost cried my eyes out when they took it from me in frontlines (though i understand why that needed to happen), but if they took it from me in pve I think I really would cry, like, a lot.

[Lilyanna]

Usually in CT/ST/WoD (or atleast in my case), 1 healer is always dps'ing if not both. If your team can dodge well and take no damage, why not? (However, I'm always ready to go back to healing should stuff hit the fan/other healer dies.)

Even on expert dungeons, if a tank big pulls, they will pop cooldowns, at this time, Holy or Shadowflare + Dots. Holy will stun and if you fear them getting low then target the tank and be ready to Bene. Lustrate has NO change while stance dancing, so if they take a big hit while your doing your dps thing, lustrate them. If you are still worried, and you have Aetherflow coming off CD, then put down Soil, DPS, and be ready to lustrate.

Sometimes I don't feel like dps'ing, I know how it is there are those days, everyone has them, esp after a hard day at work or something big and stressful comes out, but don't take away everyone's ability to play how they want.

[juniglee]

Just food for thought. Even if Cleric Stance is removed, I predict that healers will still be expected to throw some DPS out where possible anyway. Even if the damage is lesser without Cleric, chances are it will often add up to being better than having none at all.

[Kiara1]

Nooooooooo
Healing dungeons is really boring. Especially boss fights since bosses usually deal less damage than 2-3 packs of mobs so basically our job would be to just stand therevand throw in a regen now and then

If they were to remove cleric stance then theyd have to increase the bosses main attacks with a couple of 1000 damage so healers actually had something to do in a dungeon

[Dervy]

True, but if we didn't have cleric stance it wouldn't be as expected of us to DPS because our performance wouldn't be as good. The reason I made this thread is because there are many instances where healers have a lot on there plate with the healing and it feels unfair to have to do the job of the other jobs. Why should healers dps if the dps don't heal, nor tank and the same applies to tanks they don't heal they just dps because its required to do their job.

Exactly. And in those instances, healers are too busy healing to DPS. So why would clerics stance need to be disabled?

[Corfish]

I play WHM and I kind of wish Cleric Stance didn't exist.

Not because I don't want to dps, I just find it cumbersome. I just wish we didn't have to change stances to do the most healing/damage that we can. Maybe it's because I use a gamepad and already have to swap hotbars to get between healing stuff and dps stuff.

I don't mind Cleric's Stance, I just wish that stupid cooldown didn't exist on it. If you mess up and turn it on when you didn't intend to, you're now stuck with gimped heals until you can turn it back off.

[Kiara1]

I don't mind Cleric's Stance, I just wish that stupid cooldown didn't exist on it. If you mess up and turn it on when you didn't intend to, you're now stuck with gimped heals until you can turn it back off.

oh yeah that and the lag!
I have a macro that changes hotbar when I change stance. Except sometimes the stance doesn't change but the hotbar does.
Praying that they'll fix all the lag issues with the expansion!