Bard : Are there Diminishing Returns on the Crit Stat?

[Viridiana]

Indirectly, yes, there is a diminishing value on crit. Simply because +1% crit isn't very valuable if you have a high crit rate already. In terms of numbers:
+1% added while you have 10% crit rate means you get 10% more crits on average (from 10% to 11%)
+1% added while you have a 20% crit rate means you get 5% more crits on average (from 20% to 21%)

Of course, the opposite side of that math is that +1% crit is the same amount of DPS (all else being equal, of course) no matter if it's your 11th percent or your 100th.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Of course, the opposite side of that math is that +1% crit is the same amount of DPS (all else being equal, of course) no matter if it's your 11th percent or your 100th.

Both true as well as false, as strange as it sounds. While every single percent crit has a steady DPS increase, which theoretically +0,5% for every 1%, it does not come at a cost. Considering how gear works right now you're sacrificing stats from another category to increase one. So it's actually less than +0,5% dps increase for every 1% crit chance increase. While at start it's only marginal, at one point Determination would outweight Critical hit rate. Although, with current gear I don't think we can reach a point where crit would weigh less than det right now - For a bard anyway. In the future, perhaps.

[Viridiana]

While every single percent crit has a steady DPS increase, which theoretically +0,5% for every 1%, it does not come at a cost. Considering how gear works right now you're sacrificing stats from another category to increase one. So it's actually less than +0,5% dps increase for every 1% crit chance increase.

Right, I grant that the tradeoff may stop being worth it, but if you could maintain all other stats equal, a 14 point change in crit will always be the same (with those other stats constant). I just don't like calling what crit does "diminishing returns."

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Right, I grant that the tradeoff may stop being worth it, but if you could maintain all other stats equal, a 14 point change in crit will always be the same (with those other stats constant). I just don't like calling what crit does "diminishing returns."

I didn't refer it as diminishing return, I mentioned it has diminishing value

[Viridiana]

I didn't refer it as diminishing return, I mentioned it has diminishing value

Fair enough. Too used to seeing everyone call it diminishing returns.