Is pre-buffing neccessary?

[Neo-Dark]

Seeing Eos on auto by another SCH makes me cringe ><

You'd probably cringe seeing me heal then. I use Selene on Sic 99% of the time. More killin' less healin'! >.>

On topic;

Prebuffing in my opinion depends on the group, and the content. Like I do;
Trial Roulette Content pre-2.5; Succor
2.5 content/ex's, Succor, Adlo on MT
Raids, Adlo Crit, Succor
CT? No. Never know WHEN it'll FINALLY be pulled.
Your average Dungeon; Adlo on the tank.

Overall though it should all depend on the content, how much time you have to prepare, and how much you really care. In general the first 10 seconds or so the average content in the game won't kill a tank that quick. In general, it doesn't matter whether the tank is buffed, as soon as Aero's been fired, Cleric stance comes down for an adlo or a succor, so people will be shielded then anyay.

In conclusion, prebuffing; (other than Protect) is it necessary? Not for most content, no, just can be helpful.

[aisustrong]

auto selene is actually good

[VanilleFang]

auto selene is actually good

I was going to say this. Having Selene on Auto is fine, and may actually be recommended when using her. Instead of forgetting to use her buffs she will just use them automatically. It's completely different than auto Eos.

[Tranquil]

Auto-Selene works okay but the reason for putting her on Obey has more to do with the increased HPS you are able to pump out when having her on Obey, rather than the smooth auto-shuffling of the buffs. The extra HPS you're able to output via Embrace-spam can be the difference between zero MP-strain on the WHM vs. minor MP-strain over time, if the SCH is mostly DPSing away anyway, whilst minmaxing Embraces, while the WHM is maintenance healing alone. In a sense, you are getting the most out of your healing-game while DPSing, which is optimal.

So yeah, Selene works okay on Sic and I can understand why some people do that, but I personally use her (too) on Obey because I want to be in full control and get the most out of her. Not forgetting to shuffle buffs comes with the territory.

[VanilleFang]

Auto-Selene

Yeah. I can understand where you are coming from. It's just possible to use her on Sic, unlike with Eos. Eos on Sic makes absolutely no sense to me at all. I can see if you are min-maxing then yes, Selene is far better when used on Obey, but if you are in content that doesn't really require it then it's easier to just put her on Sic. Also laziness is nice sometimes. And when I said "recommended" I just meant in general, not high end content like Coil. I would never expect a SCH to use Selene on Sic in Coil.

[Tranquil]

Yup, that is right. No implications about anyone's "lazy" habits, just put it out there as food for thought for someone who might not have thought about it or whatever. I do agree with you guys that Sic Selene can work good enough for most people, whereas Sic Eos is really idiotic. I am just too autistic to ever chill when playing on mah SCH. :')

[Neo-Dark]

I wasn't saying Auto-Selene is bad, in fact I have it set so if I use Eos it's Obey, Selene is Sic (only time I have Eos on Sic is super low level dungeons because I really don't care enough to heal them, and the first 2 dungeons Selene only has Silence). I was more meaning if he didn't like people not actually controlling their pets he wouldn't like my style, because I let my pet do whatever all the time. I treat it like another healer, I can predict what they'll do, but I'm not certain, so here's a Lustrate anyway.

I really should learn to use her on Obey, but honestly I wish Sic nowdays was just like the old Sic, when they'd auto-use abilities but you could control embrace.

[Cynfael]

Auto-Selene isn't tragic, but it isn't optimal, either. If you train yourself to be aware of her buffs and use a hotkey for quick access, maintaining appropriate uptime on her buffs isn't difficult or overly tedious. Being able to split heal at will or keep the tank forcibly topped off while DPSing is a significant advantage, not to mention the occasional moment where her silence comes in handy.

Besides, being able to initiate her buffs at your command is sometimes handy. Auto-Selene will buff whenever she can, even if no mobs are left alive while the party is still in combat mode, and she obviously won't care if she happens to buff the party at the exact moment that an add wave spawns.

SCHs who use Eos on Sic are not good SCHs; using Selene on Sic is okay, but it can be done better. Once I weaned myself off of auto-Selene, I really appreciated the difference. Took a while to get used to it, though.

[Zedd702]

Yup, that is right. No implications about anyone's "lazy" habits, just put it out there as food for thought for someone who might not have thought about it or whatever. I do agree with you guys that Sic Selene can work good enough for most people, whereas Sic Eos is really idiotic. I am just too autistic to ever chill when playing on mah SCH. :')

Watch it with the pokes Tranquil

What I am quoting as lazy is a little different than auto X fairy. What I implied by lazy (not that I am saying that you are quoting this at me, but if you are, then well yeh ), but we already covered it. So we should be good. Btw this is me giving you a hard time...

Anyhoo, I like control of Selene rather auto Selene. I'm gonna use an example, minus echo buffs etc. T4 when you need the DPS on Dread's that's when I pop her buffs, but I save them through trash mobs. Also on certain DPS checkpoints like primal wipe mechanics etc. To each his own...

[Slib]

I generally use Adlo before a pull as a way to tell the tank, "I'm ready, go in!".

Is it required or necessary? Nope. They have no right to force you into a play style if no one was dying to begin with. Play your way.