The Hunt Public Shaming Needs to end

[Yukiko]

@Kinseykinz: You repeat yourself without understanding what i was saying...
Waiting on Ätherite for the crowd is in fact giving up hunting, as you said something about "active hunting". Thats your suggestion with "beeing too late, your fault" - so for not beeing late i HAVE TO not move away and SEARCH... "caring sharing free-for everyone who wants it thing", argumenting with using fear is Populism. Can we please try to find solutions and not fight against each other?

1) Timwindow for Regions/Areas to control player population (spread out, with 2 Areas or 3 at same time)
2) Some sort of Claim-System (its hunting after all and first sees, first gets is good)
3) Respawn within timewindow if someone claimed it, the others can continue hunting
4) S-Rank is ment to be beaten from alliances of 24 players -> adjust the claim system
5) Add some SS-Rank World bosses where the server needs to gather (1.xx treants level 99) -> maybe impossible because server traffic
6) To force players spread out, within timewindow you earn the loot from same monster only once!

Edit: I just wonder why you always try to attack me directly? You dont know how i am hunting and what i am trying to tell you is the daily situation "everyone" have, its not personal experiance or personal "beeing to late" it is a fact of a broken system! FC, LS and friends are gathering those informations and i was talking in general. Most of your text you are expecting ME to be late or ME not active hunting or ME not telling "others", beside you come now with telling location orders while not knowing how i do it... All that stuff about "just because in that area", "the people have already gathered" and so on... Are you talking general? It sounds like you are pointing at me and thats bad argumentation, but good Populism.

[BristolRuss]

I see a lot of common responses in this thread. Comments along the lines of "by the time I teleported into the area and reach it it is already dead". Therein lies the problem, you weren't in the area, therefore you weren't actively hunting for it. Why should you get to teleport in and profit off of other peoples work? If you want to make sure you get credit then scout the areas that you know are open and find the damn hunt mark yourself. There are far too many freeloaders who want all of the rewards for none of the effort.

[CYoung187]

I approve of public shaming. It is usually well deserved and hilarious.

It really isn't that much of a problem on my server though.

[XNihili]

I don't understand. If you feel that early pulling is nothing wrong, then the public shaming is not a shaming and people won't care about it.
If you feel that people care about it, then you may revise your understanding about what is "right" and "wrong".

[Snugglebutt]

I think those who do such shouts should be reported for harassment, anyone can /shout a random persons name followed by saying they were an early puller. That person they named would be often harassed because of the original shout regardless of whether they were even at the hunt to begin with. The ones shouting the names should face a suspension from the game for 24 hours for harassment.

If SE respond and say they wont do anything about such people and that it is up to the players to handle it then every single person who I see do that to another regardless of whether I was in the hunt or not and regardless of whether they were the ones who pulled, I might do the same to them, their name will be shouted as an early puller in all regions I teleport to so they get harassed like they harassed others with their original shout.

My advice first and foremost however is report them for harassment and SE should ideally punish them with suspension. If SE refuses to do that then a taste of their own medicine might make them change their ways but that's more a last resort and based on SE saying it is not something they will deal with in any regard.

[Tiggy]

It's a good thing this thread will change the world. Lol.

[Yukiko]

I think those who do such shouts should be reported for harassment, anyone can /shout a random persons name followed by saying they were an early puller. That person they named would be often harassed because of the original shout regardless of whether they were even at the hunt to begin with. The ones shouting the names should face a suspension from the game for 24 hours for harassment.

If SE respond and say they wont do anything about such people and that it is up to the players to handle it then every single person who I see do that to another regardless of whether I was in the hunt or not and regardless of whether they were the ones who pulled, I might do the same to them, their name will be shouted as an early puller in all regions I teleport to so they get harassed like they harassed others with their original shout.

Good example:
Camp Bronze Lake, someone jumps down to get to the quest location and gets aggroed from A-Rank Monster, then /shout are comming to blist him...
There are some other locations where the hunt Monster can be very close to villages...

[CYoung187]

I see a lot of common responses in this thread. Comments along the lines of "by the time I teleported into the area and reach it it is already dead". Therein lies the problem, you weren't in the area, therefore you weren't actively hunting for it. Why should you get to teleport in and profit off of other peo

It isn't like this is much different for most of those who pull right when they get there. They were told by a ls or an FC where it was and just got there faster. The one pulling should be the one who found it, but that never happens. I see many times where someone finds a mark then 4-5 parties show up and instantly kill before the person who found it can even get in a party to get full credit. The people who show up and pull right when they are ready are plain selfish, yet so are those complaining about being late. Neither did anything different, one was just luckier.

[KitanaiKoneko]

I think those who do such shouts should be reported for harassment, anyone can /shout a random persons name followed by saying they were an early puller. That person they named would be often harassed because of the original shout regardless of whether they were even at the hunt to begin with. The ones shouting the names should face a suspension from the game for 24 hours for harassment.

If SE respond and say they wont do anything about such people and that it is up to the players to handle it then every single person who I see do that to another regardless of whether I was in the hunt or not and regardless of whether they were the ones who pulled, I might do the same to them, their name will be shouted as an early puller in all regions I teleport to so they get harassed like they harassed others with their original shout.

My advice first and foremost however is report them for harassment and SE should ideally punish them with suspension. If SE refuses to do that then a taste of their own medicine might make them change their ways but that's more a last resort and based on SE saying it is not something they will deal with in any regard.

Even better. In 2.3 I was an an FC whose leader would pull whenever he got to the hunt mob. The mob mentality of some of the players on my server decided to remove me from the 3 hunt linkshells I was in at the time, just for being in the same FC. Joke's on them, I started doing hunts with some friends from another FC and would pull as soon as our group was there, since it wouldn't get any worse for me anyway.

[Mirakumi]

I see public shamming a bunch on Hyperion. Though most of the time they have this 10 minute wait before they actually pull and then when one person does too early it's like a bomb set off. I thought NM Hunts were supposed to be correlated to what people wanted it to be from FFXI. If I remember it was always OH SHIT LEAPING LIZZY/ EMPEROR FLY POPPED. /DIA DIA DIA. NINJA THAT SHIT. First come, first serve.

So why are people complaining? If you weren't in the zone when it first popped it means you weren't actively hunting - meaning if you missed it then - isn't that your fault?