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    KamikazeMan's Avatar
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    Because this way, people will have to spam WoD to get the loot they want each week. It will keep people coming back for a few weeks/months, hence keeping the content active for a longer period of time. If there was no lockout, you could just form a party and spam WoD for hours on end and get all the loot you want. By doing so, you won't have a reason to go back outside of the weekly quest.
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    I think SE would give a reason like "because those items are still upgrades for some people".

    Just because you're decked out in upgraded poetics gear doesn't mean everyone is. There's a lot of people still wearing ST/Soldiery gear.
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    Neuflune Mochiko
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    Poetics is still capped. It's the only other way to get IL 120 gear. (Note that I said "120" so FCOB doesn't count in this comment)

    With 450 poetics a week, it'll take you TWO weeks to get a chest or leg piece while if you run WOD, you get IL120 chest or leg piece in just one week. Granted, it can't be upgraded but hopefully you'll see how this is a problem if WOD wasn't on a lockout.
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    Zaknafein Do'urden
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    I suppose this is a good question. WoD doesn't offer much in the way of content. Add to that the fact the from now till the expansion the only actual content that will be added is like 1 hour with of story quests. Could they remove the loot lockout? Sure. People would farm the gear in there just like CT and ST before it. The gear will likely be replaced soon after the expansion launches anyway. So letting players grab it up isn't really a big deal.
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Then people would just stop playing and unsubscribe until the next major update and Square doesn't want that happening.
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    You will hit the poetics limit and have nothing else to upgrade so its already gated by that.
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    Anna Rhae
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Some items from WOD are actually BIS
    Can anyone clarify or expand on this?

    Im not saying its wrong by any means, but I have run a few builds through Ariyalas BIS calc, and never seen a WoD piece in the mix.
    I havnt tried all jobs obviously but it always seemed 130 came out top.
    Its very possible I just did not enter the correct criteria ect.

    I know some wod pieces have super sexy secondary stats, but should never be used over main stats, unless the secondary actually outweigh the primary.(Very rare occurrence).
    For example 1dex equates to 6.9det(?), so if a poetics+1 piece has 5 more dex, at least 35det(admittedly this scales linearly) would be needed on the wod piece to be beneficial over the 130.
    And I think its around 15 crit = 1% chance? (brds would need this more, I agree)

    Im sure there are some super number crunchers that know far more than me, so correct if wrong please.
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    Last edited by Accolade; 01-26-2015 at 10:11 AM.

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    Demon Tabard of Aiming... enough said. That why half the time there are like 3-4 bard in 1 pt alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    Demon Tabard of Aiming... enough said. That why half the time there are like 3-4 bard in 1 pt alone.
    Hmm the 130 for mnk has 5 more str and 34 more det, and but loses 11(not even 1%) crit.
    But the wod gear is much more accessible, so makes a lot of sense to go for.

    As for the brd body I fully agree losing 44 crit on the 130 body is crippling to brd, but the additional 22 det is negligible compared to extra 5dex on the 130.
    Its kinda swings and roundabouts

    As for me personally, I would aim for the wod body, all that stress and toxicity around hunt community is not worth the tiny dmg difference to brd (mnk ect would be a different story).
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    Last edited by Accolade; 01-26-2015 at 10:58 AM.

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    Chen Kotomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accolade View Post
    Hmm the 130 has 5 more dex and 34 more det, and but loses 11(not even 1%) crit.
    But the wod gear is much more accessible, so makes a lot of sense to go for.
    Both the 130 chest pieces have Skill Speed, which is a "dead" stat for bards. Also, NEITHER bard 130 chest piece has crit, which is the bread and butter for bards:
    http://xivdb.com/?item/8970/Dreadwyrm-Tabard-of-Aiming
    http://xivdb.com/?item/8903/Augmente...elet-of-Aiming
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