WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO LET US GET FULL HUNT CREDIT SOLO

[XiXiQ]

There are a lot of variables to what you can and cannot do while solo, solo-queued, partied, and party-queued.

Actually, there is practically nothing you can do while waiting on a queue, except craft some low level crap and gather some. 45 secs simply is not enough time to finish a high level craft AND change gear. You can't have your chocobo out, so there no choco leveling or solo fate/atma/alex/SBing (at least not with one hand tied behind your back), you can't join a group at all - also efficient for SB/fates/hunts. Joining the DF is for many people 30 minutes sitting around with their thumbs up their proverbial, wishing they could do some other content without risking getting pinged for withdrawing. These problems only get worse quiet times of the day or on lower population servers.

[Lemuria]

Yeah, the whole hunt system is seriously flawed. Though, it always has been to be fair. There needs to be a better system in place for getting credit for kills, because the current system fails on just about every level possible.

[Alistaire]

S-Rank, I never refuse. Party wanted me but they were full.
No other invites from any others
Fight over, Square Enix threw me a few crumbs.
Party leader apologized for not being able to invite me.
What else can be said? I don't know.

What else can be said? Put your own PF up; it's not that hard.

[ruskie]

So, we've got "The Lazy", the "Not fully invested", and the "Doing all the work". Tell me, why do all of these deserve "Full Credit"?
Also, "Soloers" who can't kill the mark on their own, don't deserve full credit on their own.

Sooo according to you the only people doing all the work are the 8 man party that is reporting to a LS/shouts. Really?

I was doing hunts to pass the time, I hunted alone, searched the zones on my own over and over and over during windows. I was often the first person to find them. I shouted/reported FC/LS etc... Even helped by triggering a few S ranks.

Then another group comes along and starts: Pull in N minutes, mark found etc... And to top it off generally not a single person from that group was in the zone before my shout. After their shouts the horde shows up. And not a single person there thinks... hmm who found this first, do they have their group, should we ask and invite if not? No. If you pulled with your party(if your friends weren't busy with other things at the time and actually made it to you) you instantly got branded as a ninja puller(what I found more amusing was the whole "blacklist person for ninja pulling" - you are aware if you blacklist the person that reported the hunt it means you won't see those reports again?). Sorry we found it our call if we want to pull. After a while I stopped bothering with the shouts and just let friends know and we would 8 man it or maybe another party would join us along the way.

Only once ever did anyone ask in shout after an S rank pop as to who popped it. ONCE! And then they offered to invite to party. And even with that exchange another group quickly started "pulling in N minutes blah blah"

So you are saying these people should get all the credit because they show up and take charge like they are the ones that found it? Most 8 man parties that were fully invested in hunts didn't bother reporting A ranks... they just killed them on the spot and moved on to the next one(knowing a few people that did this - and most of them were raiders as well).

So yes people other than the "doing all the work" as you put it deserve "full credit" because you don't know who really did all the work. That's why I support that solo hunters should be able to get full credit on any hunt mark. If you are there at start this should be without question. If you come in at 50% is another matter. But the peak damage for full credit done by a single player should be set to a point where if you know your job and can do it properly you can put enough DPS/enmity(this for tanks and healers) over let's say 70% of the fight(to account for unexpected mechanics, deaths, etc...). Also up the difficulty of the S ranks... Why does it takes like 10 minutes for Odin to die while an S rank is gone in a minute. Make S ranks be on par with Odin and Behemoth fates or atleast half of them that way everyone has a chance to participate.

If you want only those that do all the work to get credit then simply put a claim on the mob as a party and nobody else can get any credit. I'd be happy with that myself. You find it you activate a claim action and it's yours no matter who comes after.

A rank 1-2 parties can do a claim action and S rank idk... 3 or 6 parties can do a claim action.

Not likely to happen though. But it would make hunts a little bit more interesting and competitive.


And here's a different suggestion for the pop items and stuff...

Instance a zone in the world and only those people in that zone could participate. Something like a GC intervention is what I would put it lore wise.
You could get one pop/participation(you pick one - either you are organizing it or you are participating - it could also be the same one and gets used up when you are in such a zone at time of activation) item per week from a GC quest and when you activate it the area activates something like a FATE with the outside edge guarded by GC NPCs and some lore about whatever mark you are fighting in a info window like in a FATE(think this would be something along the lines of a cutscene as well - GC NPCs rushing to contain an area, their commander giving you the go ahead nod and such).

People that are in that lock in area at activation are the only ones that can participate. You can leave and reenter the area if you were there when it was popped but nobody new can enter after pop.

I would say the mark that pops is based on zone it's activated with 1 unique per zone and 2 or 3 common between the general area(than, la nos, shroud, coerthas+mor dhona) and 3-4 common to ALL areas. They should all have some decent mechanics -- shouldn't be pure faceroll after all. RNG would pick one of the above at pop and it would spawn in the intervention area. To make it a bit predictable I would say the lock in area itself shouldn't be much larger than sacred soil but the size of the intervention zone can be as big as largest FATE zones and it should appear in one of the cardinal directions off from the lock in area. This way it gives the people popping time to prepare.

This I feel would give some interesting FC/LS group activity.

And yes I know I'm ranting at this point.

[Dererk]

Hunts bring out the absolute worst in people.

Complaining about early pulls sand such we lets make a new rule.

FROM HERE ON OUT NONE MAY PULL TILL THE WHOLE SERVER IS THERE SO 2 HOURS AFTER FIRST SIGHTING.

is what the hunt LS people would say.

But naw lets just go ahead and pull no need to wait for whole server.
seriously when I hear something is up I go and if I don't make it oh well not that big a deal.

[Yukiko]

Just one word: RADAR

When i am gathering or mining and a A-Rank or S-Rank pop next to me its always surprising me how fast it was found from huntparties...
Well, i dont say something about cheating, because when 24+ players running around the map its normal someone sees it too, but still its surprising... (if you know the timers you can predict next span)

[Werhusky]

I remember a sunday or saturday morning. I was in Mor Dhona saw shout Kurrea <pos> as it was only few steps away from port I thought why not went over the person invited me to party. He kept shouting put a partyfinder we spammed linkshells/FCs - noone came. Ten minutes waiting nothing happened we went hmm why not and pulled (kept shouting and stuff). Rarely had such a fun killing a Huntmark (dem sleeps XD) some people showed up and went away that it was only 2 manish and would take a bit longer. In the end we 2 manned (chocos kept insta dieing so we let em be) till 85% then like 5 ppl joined us on pf.
Killing Kurrea took 15-20mins there and guess what? Kurrea died and all you see is complaining why did NOTHING to inform the server....

[SCUBA_Instr]

What else can be said? Put your own PF up; it's not that hard.

Ok, i'll give it a try, however, on Adamantoise, i need to be in place at the time the boss spawns.
Time from the announcement to teleport to arrival, where the boss is, is usually way too late,
boss is almost dead. Cant form new party quick enough. Adamantoise players are impatient
for the fight to start.

Slightly off topic comment, if I may.
According to either Reddit or another website
if a player names Chocobo after a hunt boss, like Nandi,
every time S/he summons Chocobo, battle-bots appear.

[Tiggy]

Trial roulette
Main scenario roulette
Frontlines roulette
Cant do any of those with friends

Listing those out in no way shape or form contradicted what I said. Did you even read what I wrote?

Because those roulettes literally exist to help lower level players get parties for dungeons. Queuing as more than one would defeat the entire point behind their existence. This does not support you're point.

I never said there weren't solo queues in that whole sentence did I? I pointed out that they exist for reasons that don't support the point that you were making. NOT that there weren't solo queues. Reading comprehension is an amazing thing.

[Kiara1]

Listing those out in no way shape or form contradicted what I said. Did you even read what I wrote?



I never said there weren't solo queues in that whole sentence did I? I pointed out that they exist for reasons that don't support the point that you were making. NOT that there weren't solo queues. Reading comprehension is an amazing thing.

What is this everything for myself all the time attitude. Get your group together before hand, doesn't matter what you want queue for.

Is what I originally commented on

And then you replied and said "no roulettes are meant to help new players"

And in another post I asked why should I be punished cause I want to do roulette and help new people. Why should I not be able to get full credits on hunts cause I am queueing for low level roulette and helping out new players.
Not a lot of things to do while in queue, crafting low level stuff (as you don't have enough time to finish things if queue pops so you'll have to end up NQ it)
Fates but if you are on another class there's a chance you won't leave combat within 45 seconds
So usually I and I believe others too just afk til it pops. Instead we could've joined in hunt battles and would get something out of that long queue time