Is pre-buffing neccessary?

[raela]

In dungeons, I will protect all and try to SS+adlo the tank at the start (and SS me/dps if the tank is waiting), then from there will only "pre-buff" on bosses. During trash pulls, if I have spare moments I'll SS the non-tanks (unless people are constantly losing it), and I try to time SS on the tank just as the last mob is near death, followed by an adlo as it dies/tank runs off. That way, everyone keeps a nice little cushion against damage, without needing anyone to wait on it. Depending on the size of pulls, I can usually throw in some dps this way.

[Kazumac]

Mind numbingly easy 4 man content just keep pulling, I'll buff if needed don't worry about it. Pre buffs not usually necessary. Hard content, don't be lazy... pre buff.

[Tex_Mex]

As a SCH, stoneskin is crap anyways, so I don't even bother with it. But I do like to adlo tanks before each pull so that I have a little bit of extra time to get my DoT's and a bane (and a shadow flare/miasma2 if i have the time) onto enemies before I have to start healing again. That little bit of time spent casting adlo ends up saving the group some time in the long run because I can add some very potent SCH AoE DPS to the pull.

But if you are one of those healers that never does any DPS and just stands there till the tank needs heals, then it really doesn't matter if you prebuff or not. Your choice, not the tanks. I always find that healers that add DPS get all the commendations though

[Zedd702]

As a SCH, stoneskin is crap anyways, so I don't even bother with it. But I do like to adlo tanks before each pull so that I have a little bit of extra time to get my DoT's and a bane (and a shadow flare/miasma2 if i have the time) onto enemies before I have to start healing again. That little bit of time spent casting adlo ends up saving the group some time in the long run because I can add some very potent SCH AoE DPS to the pull.

But if you are one of those healers that never does any DPS and just stands there till the tank needs heals, then it really doesn't matter if you prebuff or not. Your choice, not the tanks. I always find that healers that add DPS get all the commendations though

I don't agree with the bold part of your statement. SS as SCH, while true it's a little less than half of the WHM version, it's not worthless. I find it to be a good addition to add on top of Adloquium while tanks gather pull mobs. And furthermore to prevent DPS from taking (unintended) damage in mass pulls since the duration lasts longer than Aldoquium... 500-1100/1200 HP mitigation is nothing to sneeze at in taking an initial strike...

As for the commendations, I give mine to the one that does the best in their job class... There have been some instances I've not given any and others where I wish I had 3-7 commends to give because the team was just that awesome, but I often find that most of the SCH's I run into are very horrible, with lazy healing/buffing. They don't do much past the first Protect/SS/Succor other than heal the tank, they just DPS and rely on the pocket fairy to heal. Those types of SCH's don't even get to glimpse at my commendation...

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

I don't agree with the bold part of your statement. SS as SCH, while true it's a little less than half of the WHM version, it's not worthless. I find it to be a good addition to add on top of Adloquium while tanks gather pull mobs. And furthermore to prevent DPS from taking (unintended) damage in mass pulls since the duration lasts longer than Aldoquium... 500-1100/1200 HP mitigation is nothing to sneeze at in taking an initial strike...

Ah yes, because every tank gives you 10-20 seconds after each pull to cast Adloquium and stoneskin on everyone or whenever someone took a random stray hit, right? And it's not like they will survive without a 10% stoneskin up for 4-man content, right? Not like a scholar dealing DPS will help you go through those repetitive dungeon runs quicker, right?

Oh, right...

[aisustrong]

As for the commendations, I give mine to the one that does the best in their job class... There have been some instances I've not given any and others where I wish I had 3-7 commends to give because the team was just that awesome, but I often find that most of the SCH's I run into are very horrible, with lazy healing/buffing. They don't do much past the first Protect/SS/Succor other than heal the tank, they just DPS and rely on the pocket fairy to heal. Those types of SCH's don't even get to glimpse at my commendation...

yeah i see a lot of these

just becuase youve got a mini cnj in your back pocket doesnt mean you dont need to pay attention

[VoltaAsura]

I can't fathom why someone would not want to precast considering that not doing so only makes it harder on yourself - the healer.

I stoneskin when I can, just because I can. It makes it easier on me in too many ways.

I mean, if you want to build LB faster...by all means don't precast. IMO its silly not to :P

[Zedd702]

Verbal diarrhea

I was not particularly referring to tanks waiting for casts. That is another story for another thread. I was merely addressing the person I quoted. So feel free to sprinkle a bit of salt, pepper, paprika and whatever other spice you may desire on your sarcastic post and bon appetit...

Try taking the post as information, it was not to bash anyone. I was explaining why, imo, SS is not crap as that poster stated...

[Mutemutt]

I can't fathom why someone would not want to precast considering that not doing so only makes it harder on yourself - the healer.

I stoneskin when I can, just because I can. It makes it easier on me in too many ways.

I mean, if you want to build LB faster...by all means don't precast. IMO its silly not to :P

To be quite honest, sometimes I just forget since it's not particularly vital to the content at hand. I've also deliberately casted stoneskin on every member but one, just for laughs.

It actually kind of annoys me when everyone sits around waiting for stoneskin when I forget to cast it.

[Tranquil]

I often find that most of the SCH's I run into are very horrible, with lazy healing/buffing. They don't do much past the first Protect/SS/Succor other than heal the tank, they just DPS and rely on the pocket fairy to heal. Those types of SCH's don't even get to glimpse at my commendation...

yeah i see a lot of these

just becuase youve got a mini cnj in your back pocket doesnt mean you dont need to pay attention

Sounds absurd to me if you guys are referring to most of the pugged content in this game (ie. content with very little or infrequent AOE-healing required, and or the groups overgearing the content by a mile).

If you have a SCH that keeps tabs on their heals as needed (ie. keeping the tanks topped off as required) while contributing to the DPS and shuffling fairy buffs as need be - what more would you want? The SCH refreshing Succors on full HP bars each time the 30s is duration up? Casting untraited Stoneskins on the party "just in case"? Being idle half of the time and then casting Physick while otherwise alt-tabbed most of the time?

Just because a healer does DPS does not mean "they are not paying attention";it could be the exact opposite, ie. they have calculated the resource usage required for the incoming damage, knowing the fight in full and having backup plans for when the shit hits the fan.

I do agree that there are tons of SCHs who don't do the dexterous multitasking thing well at all, ie. if they go Cleric Stance-mode, they can only do that like a robot but can't react to the healing required and other ever-changing variables on the battlefield. Similarly, there are also SCHs who can only do decent when it comes to their healing game but suck at their DPS-game. Now, we could get into an argument about whether healers "should" DPS or not, but instead of going there, I am just gonna say that if I am gonna commend a SCH, I always give it to the person who balances their healing game and DPS-game well at the required level.