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    Timat's Avatar
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    Kane Shadowbane
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 70

    Feeling a bit of a shock at 50

    So I got my first 50 not too long again (just started a month or so ago) and I have to say there was a lot of stuff waiting for me I just did not know where to begin.

    So I have chipping away at things but I notice that a lot of the new patch instances (and thus story) is probably locked behind main quests and what not.

    Is it reasonable for a new player to get through 3 or so prior patch worth of main story to experience the new dungeons and story with them?

    Furthermore, when the xpac comes out, will have to have have completed all of the previous main story quest in order to progress in the new zones and such?

    Just wondering, if so where should I start?
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    Von Doomervil
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    I would say keep doing main scenario, Unlocks new trials and dungeons etc, Start chipping away at the crystal tower quests and gear up with that/main scenario quests. Try to get all your daily roulette's unlocked I guess, Doing what you need to unlock all of that is a good place to start.
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    Aisu Strong
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vondoomervil View Post
    I would say keep doing main scenario, Unlocks new trials and dungeons etc, Start chipping away at the crystal tower quests and gear up with that/main scenario quests. Try to get all your daily roulette's unlocked I guess, Doing what you need to unlock all of that is a good place to start.
    thanks to 2.5, he now needs i80 just to get high roulette

    close that huge gap new player
    totally great design
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Quote Originally Posted by aisustrong View Post
    thanks to 2.5, he now needs i80 just to get high roulette
    I was wondering about that. I'm at iLv84 and now I can't do HL Roulette because I am avoiding the previous EX Roulette---don't want to tank for DPS who are +30iLvs from me, half the time they behave like I owe them money or something.

    We could perhaps argue that there's the Crystal Tower for quick 80s then quick 100s, although that seems a little counter-intuitive for new players. Common sense would present that we start with the "light" party content, and progress eventually to the alliance. But no. Now new players should jump into and just grind CT for days until their LHS=100.

    The high level roulettes merged together is a policy that benefits top-tier players more than newcomers. It is a barrier to the newcomers. If the high level roulettes were instead arranged into: 2.0 Roulette, 2.1 Roulette, 2.2 Roulette, ..., pre-2.5 Roulette, 2.5 Roulette, then newcomers can progress through each patch, with the "pre-2.5 Roulette" having the same iLv restriction as the 2.5 Roulette that funnels people into the 2.0~2.4 roulettes should they choose to do an extra roulette.

    In other words, replicating the Sastasha~Aurum Vale leveling structure for fresh 50s. Giving newcomers (or in the current situation, latecomers) a clear path of progression. Then still have CT as the shortcut to the current content should people prefer.

    Although I must acknowledge that catch-up designs are very difficult to pull off. SE has shown great effort in helping people to catch up.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
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    Yutani Donarudo
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by aisustrong View Post
    thanks to 2.5, he now needs i80 just to get high roulette

    close that huge gap new player
    totally great design
    I have heard a lot of people say things like this. With that said just over two weeks ago I rolled a new alt. (completely new) GLA no cross class, no mounts nothing. Inside two weeks ilvl 80 filled the gaps by doing main story and other various quest and such. Never touch a fate until ATMA, yes already have ATMA inside two weeks. Already ilvl 80 gear, with 2 pieces of ilvl 100 gear all inside two weeks. Weaver already inside the last leg to 50 on top of that. That was playing a few hours a night (roughly 4 hours) 10 hours on the weekend (Sunday only) Before you even say oh your a tank that doesn't count. ALL groups were Party Finder or FC. ALL relic portions were PF, FC.
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by aisustrong View Post
    thanks to 2.5, he now needs i80 just to get high roulette

    close that huge gap new player
    totally great design
    The only issue I have with the new "gap" in gear is the ilv90 requirement for the newest dungeons. None of them need ilv90. You could probably go in at ilv70 without running into a single issue. Because there's so many gates to stop speed running your tank is basically being hit by a wet noodle the whole time. It gives healers more time to DPS at the risk of falling asleep out of complete boredom. The bosses don't hit hard. The only thing that might hit hard is the AoE/whatever damage if you don't do the mechanics correctly.

    If they want to stop speedrunning and up the required ilv they should actually make that ilv necessary IMO.
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    Ardent Dawn
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Timat View Post
    So I got my first 50 not too long again (just started a month or so ago) and I have to say there was a lot of stuff waiting for me I just did not know where to begin.
    Welcome to the beginning of the game! I don't know if I'm allowed to link outside resources, but just a quick google search will land you over at Reddit's FFXIV subreddit. At the top of the header is a "Useful Information" tab and "I just hit 50. Now what?" It's really useful! And if you end up having any questions, there is a question Megathread that goes on every day and people come together to help answer anyone's inquiries. I hope this helps.
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    Edwin Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Hildibrand Season 1!

    Do it!

    and make certain your body is ready!


    or else
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 01-23-2015 at 04:11 PM.

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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Hildibrand Season 1!

    Do it!

    and make certain your body is ready!


    or else
    I finally did the new Hildibrand quests last night. Laughed so hard. I also suggest chipping away at these quests OP. It's worth it.
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    Ultros
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    yeah, the gap is just way to big
    and all of the gear in any dungeon earlier than hull breaker is pretty much worthless

    this whole, need gear just to getbasic gear (ie whatever the current cheapy tome gear is) is just beyond dumb
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