Proposal: a slight alteration to vote abandon

[Fynlar]

I agree that people shouldn't be able to abuse the system to harass the people in the dungeon by constantly calling abandon votes. To stop someone from voting abandon completely? I mean come on, read what you just wrote, "That just means they will keep trying again after every wipe or every other wipe pretty much." If I was in a party that I didn't want to be in and we were wiping so much then yeah, I might legitimately want to vote abandon every 5 minutes.

And that is when if you want to leave so bad, you should just leave, instead of annoying the piss out of people like me with your stupid vote abandon spam.

You tried it once, it didn't work. NEWS FLASH: That means the group wants to keep trying. If they later decide they want to give up after all, one of them can make the call for it and not you.

And yes, being able to do it every 5 minutes would still pretty much be the same thing as "constantly calling vote abandons" in my book.

[Geryth]

And that is when if you want to leave so bad, you should just leave, instead of annoying the piss out of people like me with your stupid vote abandon spam.

You tried it once, it didn't work. NEWS FLASH: That means the group wants to keep trying. If they later decide they want to give up after all, one of them can make the call for it and not you.

And yes, being able to do it every 5 minutes would still pretty much be the same thing as "constantly calling vote abandons" in my book.

What you're proposing I think is too strict. The beauty of the cooldown means it can be as strict or lax as it needs to be. Personally I think 5 minutes is enough. For you it seems like it would at least be 15 or more minutes.

Either way it does need a change. I think adding a cooldown is the answer, whatever time that ends up being. I think it's completely viable (and needed) for someone to be able to vote abandon more than once in the dungeon.

What if the dungeon starts and the tank DC's? Instead of waiting aeons for a tank to get in an already-started dungeon (depending on the dungeon of course) let's say you simply vote abandon since you'd rather do something else rather than wait for DF to find a new tank. Whoops, it turns out that tank was in a party with a friend and the friend turns down the vote abandon because they want to give their friend a chance to reconnect. You've now wasted your only vote abandon and the dungeon has barely started - you're not sure if you want to take the leaving penalty so your stuck waiting for the reconnect. Let's say after 4-5 minutes the tank does reconnect and you continue on. If your party has real trouble later on then you can't do anything but ask someone else to vote abandon. To you that solution is acceptable but to me, it isn't. From a pure design point of view even, not even from what's "fair" or "reasonable", that's just a bad solution. It could even be something as simple as a language barrier that prevents someone from being able to ask another party member to vote abandon. Or if I were on a PS3 without a keyboard, I'd be loathe to type anything, and it would be an annoying burden to have to ask that.

If someone doesn't like the state of the party/dungeon they should be able to vote abandon. Not without restrictions, but with reasonable restrictions. Your proposed restriction is not reasonable. The beauty of the cooldown is that it's easy to adjust. Are people still harassing others even with a 5 minute cooldown? Increase it to 10. Or vice versa. It stops harassment but doesn't stop people from voting abandon multiple times in a dungeon when there are many viable reasons to do so.