Some revelations about the Ascians (Patch 2.5 MAJOR SPOILERS)

[MaethusXion]

My first thought was that Lahabrea was possessing Thancred during our encounters with him and Thancred is most defiantly a "being of this world" so maybe because his host was free to come and go despite the light's protection, then so was Lahabrea. If this is the case Elibibus could also be possessing someone.

This is exactly my thought on the subject

[Duuude007]

Gaius had implied that Primals and The Twelve were 'Eikons, every one'.

I do like how they doubled down on that premise by explaining how Louisiox could summon them using people's prayers and the planet's Aether, rather than a metric buttload of crystals.

[Sapphic]

This is the part that I get hung up on. Louisoix had no way of stopping the physical manifestation of aether-chugging primals taking the form of the Twelve. He planned to kill himself to interrupt the ritual and prevent it - the only thing that stopped him was Bahamut. It's easy to miss that even if Cartenau didn't play out the way it did, he wasn't coming home.

It is hard to say anything without giving FCoB spoilers in regards to that.

[Kaiser-Ace]

My favorite part of 2.5 was part of the last CS.

Nabriales: Noooo! I am Etranal!!!! I am Immortal!!!

Me: YOU!!! ARE DEAD!!!!

[Aeliott]

I assumed the reason he spared Minfillia (or rather, the other Ascians wouldn't want her dead) was simply because she has the echo. Probably related to how Iceheart can serve host to Shiva, perhaps they value echo users as potential vessels to serve their purposes. I'm sure I'm far from the first to speculate this, but unless there are things about Minfilia we don't know yet it's certainly a sound assumption about what Nabriales meant.

[treuhavik]

I assumed the reason he spared Minfillia (or rather, the other Ascians wouldn't want her dead) was simply because she has the echo.

My thoughts aswell. The Ascians themselves are echo users and they understand what that power is capable of, if not it's full potential. So, while I still believe they are using the PC and Minfillia to further their scheme, we also have value as a potential ally in the future, granted our control of the echo equals or bests theirs.

[Delily]

It is hard to say anything without giving FCoB spoilers in regards to that.

I'd go ahead and spoil it anyways, more than likely, most people have seen the post below about that.

[myahele]

Hopefully the asciens wont pull an organization 13 and start betraying/killing each other; therefore leaving only Lahabrea and Elidibus as the only true ascian threat. But it was interesting to know that each have a different goal/ method in how to awaken Zodiark.

What really got me was how the Chrysalis world looked like it had some kinda of door/gate and how Zodiark's chrystal (?) looked a shattered crystal in suspended animation.

[Yshnal]

Regarding Elidibus wanting Minfilia alive, and both him and Lahabrea being from our world, couldn't it be possible that both of them were actually people from our world that were chosen to serve Zodiark in the same way that Hydaelyn chose us? And with that in mind, couldn't it be possible, too, that Elidibus was in fact Warburton "ascended" by the dark crystal after the events in pre-1.0 (his aether and "soul" being grabbed by it when he passed away, instead of letting it return to the flow)? That could be another reason why he would want to keep her safe, and why he didn't seem as aggressive as other ascians. Otherwise, why Minfilia and not us? Because they don't seem to care if we live or die.

[Jeiko_Hunter]

Regarding Elidibus wanting Minfilia alive, and both him and Lahabrea being from our world, couldn't it be possible that both of them were actually people from our world that were chosen to serve Zodiark in the same way that Hydaelyn chose us? And with that in mind, couldn't it be possible, too, that Elidibus was in fact Warburton "ascended" by the dark crystal after the events in pre-1.0 (his aether and "soul" being grabbed by it when he passed away, instead of letting it return to the flow)? That could be another reason why he would want to keep her safe, and why he didn't seem as aggressive as other ascians. Otherwise, why Minfilia and not us? Because they don't seem to care if we live or die.

Because they want to get away with, and we're just a bunch of meddling kids and our pet dragon!