Change Alexandrite's "Morbid Motivation" for DR High please

[Izsha]

That's all fine and dandy that the quest is "no longer balanced for the reward it offers" except the roulette itself has a rather larger reward and is something most people are doing anyway for poetics. It's just a bonus reward to a different quest (daily roulette). Just like the challenge log gives you rewards for doing other content that has its own reward. This is like saying that weekly Dungeon challenge reward needs to be raised because dungeons are leveling up. It's just a bonus for doing a common activity.

And yes it is related to other Alex sources. 1 source of Alex will get slightly more challenging over time, so they buff the bejesus out of every other source. Morbid used to be the primary source, otherwise it was run 16 brayflox, get a map and fight a popped mob that was moderately dangerous for the ilvl they were released at and lol@fates. Then came hunt tomes and direct alex buys. Now you can get maps many times faster thabks to tome inflation, maps are lulz essy, hunts are more than twice as effective at farming Alex than originally and fates are worth doin.

If you want Alex faster you got it. If you want expert rewards (poetics, dungeon loot) you still have it. Stop conflating the issues. You have easy as pie alex. You have expert basically as they have always been, with a bonus alex. There is no rational reason to reprogram a quest when th e reward has become so commonplace. All this is is complaining that out of 4 ways to obtain something, 3 got buffed to hell and the 4th got a tiny smidge harder, and you prefer ed the 4th way. It rains alex, lights, atma and soldiery everywhere. Any relic qq is just whining at this point.

[Aurora-Pendragon]

"Its A SLAP in the face" to me and All the other players who have done this quest. Please reconsider your stance on this . This quest has been nerf'ed enough, anymore and you might have to HAND out nexus/Zodiac weapons for free.

How helping players getting their atma faster can be a "slap in the face" to anyone? Unless you want to DF with people using their zenith weapon? I'd love to see a zenith tank trying to hold hate agains't zodiac DPS.

[Donarudo]

Oh look, it's someone who can't fully think out a change, what a surprise!

Yes, changing it to High Level roulette, to force you to run dungeons that drop less rewards (both gear/material/tomestones) and are less populated than Expert Roulette is a good idea. Oh wait no, that's a terrible idea.

Have the decency to properly formulate a rebuttal against somebody who does not agree with you. I have seen your post for sometime, and other then your staunch holier then thou responses you do generally give good information. Why is it you feel everything is a personal attack? I have watched videos you have been in and even tried to glean some experience from people like you. However, honestly the more I see you post the more I realize you are the type of player that is the problem and not the solution.

[Izsha]

To be fair he does make a point. It's not presented in a politically correct package, but its there. Changing the quest from expert to high means longer cue times to complete it, and less (non alex) rewards (poetics, various direct drops in new dungeons etc). Not sure how you can't see that.

[Tiggy]

Not the issue. The rate of alexandrite acquisition is not what this thread is about.

It is, however, directly related. The quest no longer being a prime source for Alex isn't as big of a deal when there so many other sources. Meaning this isn't that big of a priority. So while it's not the direct issue at hand it most certainly is part of the equation. Heck I just finished my Alex stage about a week before the patch. The new rates are like a wet dream due to both the soldiery increase and the increase in hunt rewards. That definitely affects how much I care about the daily.

[Donarudo]

How helping players getting their atma faster can be a "slap in the face" to anyone? Unless you want to DF with people using their zenith weapon? I'd love to see a zenith tank trying to hold hate agains't zodiac DPS.

That is a pretty stereotypical response. Do I take offense to it? Not really. However, I will say this much. I am leveling or was leveling a new Paladin. I already have an ilvl 103 Paladin with Zenith as well. I have already completed many DR's where the dps out-geared me, and frankly have had no issues with holding aggro. So you might want to reconsider that whole trying to see a tank with a zenith hold hate thing. I do it all the time, and not just with FC mates random folks as well.

[FranSeara]

How helping players getting their atma faster can be a "slap in the face" to anyone? Unless you want to DF with people using their zenith weapon? I'd love to see a zenith tank trying to hold hate agains't zodiac DPS.

Sorry, at this point the ONLY reason why a players shouldn't have better then a Zenith weapon is their "NEW" or didnt want or couldnt do the quest when it launched. It's still a insult for anyone begging that the Zodiac/Nexus quests be nerf'ed anymore then it has have been. You have many ways to get weapons now Sol/Ironworks weapon can be gotten instead of a upgrade Relics. If you dont want to do the work: Nerf'ed Atma,nerf'ed books in price,many ways to get Alex,Nerf'ed light farming then you "MUST" not really want these weapons. If I have 3, then it can't be that hard. I'm the poster child for "Casul Player". Let's not be silly here. (not trying to be a HARD Axx here....just saying)

[MasamuneBranford]

How helping players getting their atma faster can be a "slap in the face" to anyone? Unless you want to DF with people using their zenith weapon? I'd love to see a zenith tank trying to hold hate agains't zodiac DPS.

Here's my thought on this. Anybody who wasn't willing to do Atma - is likely not going to work on their Zodiac anyway (thus it's really people working on their second, third, etc. weapons that benefit). I mean - if someone balked at atma - what are they going to think about actually doing the books (the very next step?)

27 fates could easily take 20-40 hours. 900 mobs is going to average about 18 hours (the maximum 3 spawn mobs really make this portion drag). 27 dungeons (when you factor in duty finder wait time and the fact that many of them are going to require you to enter dungeons under level 50) could easily take you a good 20-30 hours. 27 leves - well these probably won't take you more than 4 hours or so total.

Bottom line - you're looking at a good 80 hours on average just to finish the 9 books. Even if you got all 9 books for free - that's a huge hurdle. Then you have novus (which costs money), nexus which is just boring as all heck even with the nerf and then you have the Zodiac phase which is almost as bad as the books.

[kidvideo]

Please move this quest requirement to high-level roulette.

YES! Either move it to High level, or delay changing the dungeon line up for Expert.

Every major patch it takes me a few days to unlock the new dungeons, & I'm losing our on the daily Alexandrite map quest.

[Tiggy]

YES! Either move it to High level, or delay changing the dungeon line up for Expert.

Every major patch it takes me a few days to unlock the new dungeons, & I'm losing our on the daily Alexandrite map quest.

It's a good thing they didn't make all the other ways of getting them considerably easier. Whew.

27 fates could easily take 20-40 hours. 900 mobs is going to average about 18 hours (the maximum 3 spawn mobs really make this portion drag). 27 dungeons (when you factor in duty finder wait time and the fact that many of them are going to require you to enter dungeons under level 50) could easily take you a good 20-30 hours. 27 leves - well these probably won't take you more than 4 hours or so total.

In general these don't match the numbers I got in december when I did my books. Even still the fate portion won't take that long anymore since they upped the spawn rate a bit on some of those fates. Also, many of these activities can be done in such an order that you greatly decrease the overall time.

My approach for example tried to overlap as much as possible. As a DPS I knew queues would be long so I'd queue a dungeon up. Then check all three fate zones and kill any fates I saw up that I needed. Then I'd go kill 1 group of 10 mobs. Then I'd do a pass through the three fate zones again. Wash rinse repeat until the queue pops or you finish. 2 out of 3 books I had the fates done before the dungeons and sometimes before I was even done killing monsters. If you do each thing one at a time it will take forever. Be smarter about it and it can be done faster. That's why my experience went much faster than what you suggested above. I'm not wasting time waiting for fates or queues so I got more done.