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  1. #41
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    Aurelinaus's Avatar
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    Zata'ra Dakwhil
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    My numbers may be high but thanks for backing up my point.
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    Last edited by Aurelinaus; 01-20-2015 at 05:54 PM.

  2. #42
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    Ghanima Leternelle
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    I think most of the players out there don't care about the pro/cons of being a whm or a sch. They play their class because they enjoy it. I play SCH because I like fairies, not because it's supposedly "better" than White Mage. I'd have played WHM if my favorite weapon was a staff. I rolled a PLD because of Curtana, not because it was better or not than a warrior. People on forums are acting like they were all doing/clearing FCOB, and like there wasn't any other kind of players in this game, but when I saw the % of people clearing T13 ( 0 to 5% depending of the server?), I realized that forum's reality was faaaaar away from game's reality.
    A vast majority of the population don't care if you're playing a WHM or a SCH ( or the incoming AST) as long as you're doing good with your class.
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  3. #43
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora-Pendragon View Post
    I think most of the players out there don't care about the pro/cons of being a whm or a sch. They play their class because they enjoy it. I play SCH because I like fairies, not because it's supposedly "better" than White Mage.
    Sadly, not everyone who lurks the forums think like that. There's this thing I'll dub the scholar bandwagon and it comes with the elitism with it. Bandwagon? Yes, bandwagon. The good scholars know better and don't spread hate or grief against the other healing class.
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  4. #44
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    -Snip-
    Until we see exactly these four things, no one will be able to assess exactly what any healer will need "to be competitive":
    -What new abilities WHM will get from 50-60
    -What new abilities SCH will get from 50-60
    -What AST ability list will be
    -How S-E will design the Alexander bosses

    The first three are very obvious. We can't make any judgement on anything until we see exactly how the three healers will interact with each other at 60. The fourth one is a bit less intuitive because how S-E designs the fight may encourage certain pairings.

    For example
    -Alexander Boss #1 could have mechanics that are best handled with WHM + SCH
    -Alexander Boss #2 could have mechanics that are best handled with SCH + AST
    -Alexander Boss #3 could have mechanics that are best handled with WHM + AST
    etc...

    Hell, for all we know AST will be so damn OP all raid healers will be AST + AST.

    Or AST can be such a weak healer that WHM + SCH will still reign supreme.

    Or the abilities given to WHM from 50-60 will be so incredible everyone will want WHM + WHM.

    Until Heavensward hits the game, every form of discussion we have about AST and the interactions it'll have with the other healers is based on pure conjecture and speculation.

    While it is interesting to discuss "what-ifs", especially on the spells and abilities category, spearheading your topic on doom and gloom will easily do to things:

    (1) Make you look like a fool
    (2) Dilute the actual discussion with "lol" posts
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 01-21-2015 at 12:14 AM.

  5. #45
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    Gorvi Velgin
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    The best setup for any two healer situation is a WHM+SCH combo. If SE does their balance right it'll the WHM+SCH/WHM+AST/SCH+AST combos will all even out. AST has the daunting task of having to complement both WHM and SCH, and the new WHM and SCH skills need to be able to complement AST.

    WHM isn't in any trouble, the thought is just silly. WHM vs SCH, WAR vs PLD, they both get the job done in each case, they just have different ways of doing it. It's all about how you prefer to play.
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  6. #46
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    Aisu Strong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorvi View Post
    The best setup for any two healer situation is a WHM+SCH combo. If SE does their balance right it'll the WHM+SCH/WHM+AST/SCH+AST combos will all even out. AST has the daunting task of having to complement both WHM and SCH, and the new WHM and SCH skills need to be able to complement AST.

    WHM isn't in any trouble, the thought is just silly. WHM vs SCH, WAR vs PLD, they both get the job done in each case, they just have different ways of doing it. It's all about how you prefer to play.
    step 1) insert large, glowly axe into enemy
    step 2) repeat

    :3
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  7. #47
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    Gorvi Velgin
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    Quote Originally Posted by aisustrong View Post
    step 1) insert large, glowly axe into enemy
    step 2) repeat

    :3
    The amount of enjoyment I get from carrying out the above steps is why my Warrior is becoming a serious threat to my White Mage as far as being my main class.
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  8. #48
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    Szeth Osiris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelinaus View Post
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    By nature Scholar is a faster healer. In the static i mentioned the WHM is slightly better geared than me, but my spell speed is higher. In the time it takes him to cast one cure II i can cast one and a half physicks. Succor is not meant to be as strong as medica because it provides the shield mitigation bonus. However, a succor with a roused last whisper easily matches the healing power of medica II in total healing. The White Mage can keep a tank full with powerful heals to combat the powerful damage coming in while Scholar kicks out fast band-aids. I would never expect my WHM partner to only heal the party because his raw power would be wasted. Whereas I can heal the party and succor as necessary and never lose mana. Its about working with each other. Why make the WHM do all the work when I can patch the group up while he keeps the tank nice and fresh.
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    Last edited by sirlombax; 01-21-2015 at 02:58 PM.

  9. #49
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirlombax View Post
    By nature Scholar is a faster healer. In the static i mentioned the WHM is slightly better geared than me, but my spell speed is inherently higher because of my class.
    Misinformation post of the day
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  10. #50
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    Alkaid Gainsborough
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    Hey SCH how are you guys doing in Odin?
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