Page 3 of 11 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 102
  1. #21
    Player
    giantslayer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    470
    Character
    Colette Pascal
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemonster View Post
    So basically, you're trying to reduce the amount of effort you have to put in while sacrificing versatility. I think this is the wrong way to approach scholar. If you play on a PC you can have so many keybinds and there are more than enough hotbars for them.
    You misunderstand me. I agree with your philosophy. I use macros to reduce the amount of effort without sacrificing versatility.

    I play on PS4. I do not have an infinite amount of keybinds available. I have 32 without having to switch hotbars. I have to be very selective about what gets into my 32 (protect and summons, for example, go on a separate hotbar) to use macros to save spaces. I very carefully chose macros that would not sacrifice versatility in battle or box me in. Examples of my space saving macros are:
    Place/heel
    Swiftcast/res
    Aetherflow/energy drain


    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemonster View Post
    Using target of target and focus target macros reduce your versatility.
    You are correct. This is why my macro has <t> as the first line. That way I can always target the old fashioned way, and have the convenience of <f> and <tt> when I want it. I am in complete control and sacrificing no versatility.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemonster View Post
    1. you can achieve everything that a macro does by simply being a quickthinking player who has practiced healing enough to switch between targets rapidly and control both self and pet simultaneously
    We will have to agree to disagree on that point. As a PS4 player, I cannot simply click to target, so switching is a much more cumbersome and time consuming process. I also see value in using macros to improve efficiency and allow me to focus more attention on other things, so long as they don't box me in. Besides that, interrupt macros do bring some value to the table beyond just efficiency.

    All things considered, our philosophies are similar. My macros are efficient, but not lazy. If I were on PC, I would probably do more things the way you do them.
    (2)

  2. #22
    Player Jeckyl_Tesla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    271
    Character
    Cap'n Jack
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 61
    Your "Queue" macros don't seem to work for me. Right now, I have embrace macro'd for easy single target healing, which is fine.

    But I want to set up a macro that will cast embrace on the target I want, without interrupting her current heal. Your queue macro isn't doing that for me at all.
    (0)

  3. #23
    Player
    DarkerOrange's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    349
    Character
    E'dok Edok
    World
    Masamune
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    I don't think there is a way to do that other that spamming the embrace button. Macros can't queue in this game.
    (0)

  4. #24
    Player Jeckyl_Tesla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    271
    Character
    Cap'n Jack
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    I don't think there is a way to do that other that spamming the embrace button. Macros can't queue in this game.
    That's a shame. I don't want to macro it into my physick, since I like being bale to heal the tank and send my pet to heal somebody who has just taken some damage that's over 80%
    (0)

  5. #25
    Player
    DarkerOrange's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    349
    Character
    E'dok Edok
    World
    Masamune
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    It just takes practice. Remember pets have their own GCD, so you can heal the tank and hit embrace to get Eos to heal another party member (use <mo> macros on PC, not sure how this would work on console).
    (0)

  6. #26
    Player
    JakzChurchill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    176
    Character
    Jakz Kumaze
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 64
    This thread is really helpful, used a lot of these macros for my scholar to get things how i like.

    as mentioned by someone else the /macrolock function is great, especially for whispering dawn which i would sometimes cancel the cast on.

    I also have res on my second bar (controller) with swiftcast seperate and the /chotbar change 1 at the end, this means it will cast the skill then take me straight back to my healing bar. I do this with a few other skills.

    The embrace on top of physick I have been using for a while though and feel it complicates things, with the macro you can target 2 players using hard and soft target healing allowing to heal both simultaniously but i feel it adds too much thought to the process leading to a higher chance of mistakes, to combat this i find that having embrace on its own with the cancel macro works better, as you can still spam it while casting physick.
    (0)

  7. #27
    Player
    giantslayer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    470
    Character
    Colette Pascal
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla View Post
    Your "Queue" macros don't seem to work for me. Right now, I have embrace macro'd for easy single target healing, which is fine.

    But I want to set up a macro that will cast embrace on the target I want, without interrupting her current heal. Your queue macro isn't doing that for me at all.
    Interrupting a cast of Embrace in order to cast Embrace on someone else is impossible. Please take a couple minutes to re-read that section as that may help clarify what this macro is designed to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    I don't think there is a way to do that other that spamming the embrace button. Macros can't queue in this game.
    Correct. Faeries do not have the ability to queue and a macro can't fix that. My "queue" macro is basically a macro to automate the repeated pressing of the button that most players do manually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla View Post
    That's a shame. I don't want to macro it into my physick, since I like being bale to heal the tank and send my pet to heal somebody who has just taken some damage that's over 80%
    You can still do that. I still have an embrace macro without Physick that I had been using long before I discovered the range limitation and decided the Embrace+Physick macro was a good idea. You can also use an Embrace+Physick macro while you are casting something else or moving and while you will be unable to cast Physick, your faerie will still do Embrace.

    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    i find that having embrace on its own with the cancel macro works better, as you can still spam it while casting physick.
    If you are saying what it sounds like you are saying, this is a horrible idea. Once your faerie starts casting Embrace, her GCD for Embrace is spent, whether she finishes casting or you interrupt her. Eos will not be able to re-cast Embrace until her full 3-second cooldown has finished, same as if you had let her finish. All you are doing is throwing away a casting of Embrace for nothing.

    Worse yet, the moment her cooldown is up, if auto-cast conditions are met, she will immediately start casting on her own. If you are for some reason bound and determined to make her heal someone her AI wouldn't choose naturally, this will not accomplish that.

    This is all very easy to confirm by testing your macro outside of battle.


    To be honest, the only times I have ever questioned her decision to heal someone and wanted her to heal a different target have been when things have been going REALLY badly, a lot of people are low on HP, and I have to start choosing who to save and who to let die (save the tank, let the DPS die). Those situations are very rare and usually end up in a wipe anyways. The rest of the time, I find the auto-healing to be very helpful. I don't understand why so many people want to eliminate auto casting or manually override her choice for Embrace.
    (0)

  8. #28
    Player
    Cynfael's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    2,164
    Character
    Sacrilege Moonshadow
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    I don't understand why so many people want to eliminate auto casting or manually override her choice for Embrace.
    The auto-heal feature is helpful much of the time, but it can occasionally be frustrating when you've already thought a couple of steps ahead and find that your fairy decided to do her own thing before you could spam your Embrace hotkey (e.g. a mechanic has caused 2 or more party members to dip below 80%, but the fairy's healing priority turns out to be different than what you had in mind). It's typically not a game-breaking problem, but the desire to circumvent it is understandable since, in most situations, damage to players other than the tank is A) avoidable B) telegraphed and/or C) sporadic.
    (0)

  9. #29
    Player Jeckyl_Tesla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    271
    Character
    Cap'n Jack
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    Interrupting a cast of Embrace in order to cast Embrace on someone else is impossible. Please take a couple minutes to re-read that section as that may help clarify what this macro is designed to do.

    You can still do that. I still have an embrace macro without Physick that I had been using long before I discovered the range limitation and decided the Embrace+Physick macro was a good idea. You can also use an Embrace+Physick macro while you are casting something else or moving and while you will be unable to cast Physick, your faerie will still do Embrace.
    Thanks, that's actually a good idea. Also when I said that the queue macro didn't work, I meant that Eos was completely unresponsive when using that macro. She never cast anything, be it Embrace or Whispering Dawn or Fey Covenant. Might have been my end, but I copied and even hand wrote it myself and nothing helped.
    (0)

  10. #30
    Player
    giantslayer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    470
    Character
    Colette Pascal
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla View Post
    Thanks, that's actually a good idea. Also when I said that the queue macro didn't work, I meant that Eos was completely unresponsive when using that macro. She never cast anything, be it Embrace or Whispering Dawn or Fey Covenant. Might have been my end, but I copied and even hand wrote it myself and nothing helped.
    Sounds like the cooldown interrupt macro is the one you want, but keep in mind those do not work for Embrace. Interrupt macros are good for her other abilities.
    (0)
    Last edited by giantslayer; 01-20-2015 at 01:01 AM.

Page 3 of 11 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 ... LastLast