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    SCH is so harshly punished for stacking . Thats why we don't double SCH.

    In cutting edge content its never lack of heals or healer skill that holds the pt back. Its always lack of dps (or your max HP is too low).

    Turn 9 is made much easier by extra dps so its not surprising its solo heal able.
    Most of the difficulty of turn 9 is the instant kill mechanics not the healing aspect.
    With enough dps you skip phases , this is the case for most endgame fights.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 01-18-2015 at 10:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
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    Thank you for saying that. It completely makes your previous point mute. Secondly the video is of T9 not FCoB and T9 is still a challenging fight. The point I was trying to make and you unknowingly agreed to an extent. Be a SCH or WHM both can heal all content fine on their own. Those lacking skill in one or the other will complain one is weaker and create a bunch of excuses to make up for their failings.

    One last thing, healers never meet the accuracy cap for end game content som you can never rely on them to help push phases. That is why there is never a need for healers to DPS. If you do, you risk wasting MP and missing attacks (thought it would be obvious by now).

    BTW which FCoB turn are you or the other healer is doing DPS on?
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  3. #183
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    Im only speculating on AST, im speculating it having some buffs. Since it uses cards like Corsair.

    But if AST gives buffs to the DPS then why would you take WHM over it.

    Although its possible that in these next 10 levels WHM will get something to make you pick them over the other two jobs.

    I said that optimal pt will be SCH + X.

    SCH is a better team mate then WHM. Their shields don't over heal like WHM does. So if they both heal a target it wont be 100% overheal.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 01-18-2015 at 11:22 AM.

  4. #184
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    I understand what you are saying but we are going off the topic here.

    It is also possible that AST may not be the way you will like to do healing. We know too little about the new Jobs and speculating with no information will lead us no where.
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  5. #185
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    WHM is very barebones and its only so because it was the first healer made. I dont think i wont enjoy a job with more depth. I doubt AST will be more bland then WHM.

    I already am a bit annoyed by something with WHM. Its not its mana issues, i never run out of mana since i have a PIE build(i only run low if i dps).
    Its how much enmity regen and medica 2 get.

    I dont play sch because the extra button pressing for eos/selene hurts my fingers.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 01-18-2015 at 11:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    I dont play sch because the extra button pressing for eos/selene hurts my fingers.
    I drove a '72 Pontiac Firebird for a few years. At speed (and it had amazing straight-line speed!) it was twitchy, uncomfortable and a bit unpredictable. And I always had to do something to it, maintenance wise. SCH.

    I have a '76 bMW 3 series now. It doesnt turn as many heads, but its stable, comforable, predictable and faster through curves. It runs thru a bit of power steering fluid, but otherwise It just goes; no drama. WHM.
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    You, sir, win this thread. Amazing analogy
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    Because every single endgame raid such as coil has been around DPS checks rather then actual healer skill.
    I'm guessing you've not done much FCOB yet? =( T13 is particularly rough on healers especially when starting out with mostly ilvl110 gear, it's a real workout!
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I'm guessing you've not done much FCOB yet? =( T13 is particularly rough on healers especially when starting out with mostly ilvl110 gear, it's a real workout!
    No i quit my raiding static before FCoB released. I just watch my sister play it now(armchair healing) , they mostly complain about dps checks.
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  10. #190
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    @Sharazisspecial

    May I request what new skills does 3.0 bring to the table?
    Since you're pretty damned sure AST will be getting a Shell-Type Buff to go with Scholar's Protect-Type Buff, I can only assume you're a Time Traveler or a SE Employee .

    P/S : Personally I THINK AST may get a Shell-Type Buff, but Sharazisspecial said so with such authority ("Most serious healers bla bla bla....") I can't help but assume he knows what's going down in 3.0 :P
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