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  1. #11
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    Accolade's Avatar
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    Anna Rhae
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Lonnng term goals available:
    Get every job to 120ilvl (mine are all 110 atm, waiting for v3 for 120s)
    Get every 110 peice of pvp gear and all 110 pvp weapons.
    cap 20k wolf marks ready for next pvp armour update.
    Get a completed relic on every job.
    Cap chocobo rank.
    Cap retainer rank.
    Beat t13 before nerf.

    Theres lots out there if you consider yourself a real completionist, which I do not.
    (I am only aiming for the first 3)
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    Last edited by Accolade; 01-17-2015 at 08:49 PM.

  2. #12
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    Volta Asura
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    I'm not sure if it's appropriate to say that for a theme park MMO - that there is a long term goal. I would say that any long term goal in this game, would be determined by the player and what the want or desire from the game. Everyone's motivation or reason for playing is not the same. For example, you have those who only play because they like to craft, min/max, roleplay or because they are completionists. Due to how the game is made, there are so many different paths you could take or dive into, so no 1 long term goal is ever impressed upon you. You choose what that long term goal is, based on the content available and what you like or want to do, how much time you want to invest, and how much you enjoy said content overall.

    Ultimately, the long term goal in a theme park MMO is to get you to play and sub for as long as possible. That's really it. SE does themselves a favor in this, by making sure new content is released on a regular basis.

    On the actual topic however, I can understand your frustrations with the "gear reset", if you want to call it that. However you must remember that this game is a theme park mmo and is mostly aimed towards casual players. Unfortunately, due to the game's design, it is always going to be this way for gear. IMO as long as your gear is good for current content, you should be fine. IF you are a min/maxer, additions like WoD can provide you with different options (bard gear without fucking SS and ACC I'm looking at you !) or perhaps you can get carbontwine/encrypted tomestone/carboncoat to upgrade your 120 gear, because maybe you have a few pieces you want to upgrade still - so this isn't always a bad thing. It's a win win for everyone except the most hardcore or elitist players, but even those who complain do indeed benefit from how the system is designed. I've seen a lot of "elitist" or "hardcore" players (some who have even beaten savage coil 6-9) who complained about "handouts for casuals" participate in hunts, or farmed ST to get sands/oils/UAT to upgrade their gear or get a i00/i110 weapon. Again, everyone benefits from this.
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  3. #13
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    Soube Miseux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    The only "long-term" goal in the game, relic weapons, has had (at best) mediocre rewards. You spend months, or in the case of the players who have been around since launch over a year, grinding out a weapon that is in most cases subpar to raid drops. Only once for a brief period of time was the grind actually worth it, and that was with the extreme caveat that you spent tens of millions of gil to infuse the right materia.

    That's right, the ONLY long-term goal in the game right now nets you a reward of "you'd get better gear from farming tomestones and getting a couple of drops, or clearing T13 and getting lucky, than wasting months of your time on this shit" weapon.
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  4. #14
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    Accolade's Avatar
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    Anna Rhae
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Coil weapons have always been slightly better than the latest relic stage, and its intended.

    Coil weapons (ultimate weapons) - take a very dedicated static months of effort (or exceptional skill/teamwork), so this should yield the best items in the game.

    Relic weapons (casual weapons) are open to anyone, regardless of playtime or skill, although the grind is long, it by no means ever requires skill. It makes sense these would not be top tier.

    If the best weapon in the game were relics, then coil would be empty.
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    Last edited by Accolade; 01-17-2015 at 09:38 PM.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    or clearing T13 and getting lucky, than wasting months of your time on this shit" weapon.
    Clearing t13 and getting the drop, or to a point where your static can farm, often takes much longer than the relic grind. Both paths have set backs.
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  6. #16
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    My long term goal is getting the tank mounts. I'm not a career tank so it's going to take a while. I just chip at it here and there.
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  7. #17
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    Anthonee E'enohtna
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    My long term goal in game is to just keep improving. I'm not the best monk in the game nor claim to be and I'm quite hard on myself when I don't feel I did the best I could have done. So, for me, my long term goal is just getting better whether that's improving my gear or just practicing on a training dummy for a while to get used to rotations. So for me the games not really missing long term goals.
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    Anthonee E'enohtna, part of the Ma6itek Nebula.

  8. #18
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    the game has plenty of long term goals as long as they are something you want to do. Chocobo level, personal housing, specific dungeon gear drop, achievement items, relic, gear, mounts, minions, gardening, crafting/gathering, pvp rank, and so on.
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  9. #19
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    Blaise Destin
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Accolade View Post
    Lonnng term goals available:
    Get every job to 120ilvl (mine are all 110 atm, waiting for v3 for 120s)
    I think one of the OP's complaints was that these things are replaced quickly, so you can't really aim for these as a long term because by the time you hit I.lv 120 on all jobs, you're likely in Obsolete gear now... I mean, mathmatically speaking it would be impossible to get all jobs (all) to I.lv120 before they Uncap Poetics and release higher level Tomes, since you're bound to 450 a week. Unless you toss in Final Coil gear of course... which I still think would be very difficult since they're also weekly lockouts and luck based

    Though by "Long term" i think he means a persistent goal, which i think relics would really be the only one available atm aside from fruitless side junk like Chocobo Raising. Though, I hope I can at least enjoy Triple Triad when its released... please SE, don' f**k up triple triad ._.

    Get a completed relic on every job.
    This is truly long term, I'll agree there. But its also downright suicide for anyone whos not already insane or dead

    Cap chocobo rank.
    Ball crunchingly pointless for the effort involved... but it is long term I'll give you that lol.
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  10. #20
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I think the only long term goal is to defeat the Ascians... a goal which can only be done once we've got enough updates to progress that far in the story. Any other long term goal would be made utterly irrelevant the minute a new update is released.
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