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    Starkbeaumont's Avatar
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    players starting now are a bit screwed considering how they have to be ilv80 and unlock/complete all those dungeons before they can even do the high level roulette
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    They need to change high level and trial roulette to work like low level roulette. Low level lets you just select from any dungeons you have unlocked even if you have not unlocked them all. The others could be changed to match, as long as you have say 3 different dungeons unlocked you can use them for roulette.
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    No hell no lol.
    Snowcloak is terribad and Sastasha is just like its predecessor - slow and painful. Quarn is /kinda/ fun
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    Because the expert dungeons, are the highest ilv?
    Qarn, Sash, Snow, drop lv 80 stuff, i'm sure the new sets are 90.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nutz View Post
    It is a bit odd. That Duty Roulette: Hard pool is getting seriously diluted now as well. I'm not sure why they have it structured this way. I understand the expert category composed of all the newest dungeons, but the next rung down being literally every other post 50 dungeon is lazy and it means new players don't get access to that roulette until they've completed 14 different dungeons.
    well, that's true...but if you could roulette without completing them all, then you could pick your favorite/s, and always get your preferred instance/s.
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    Amazon Dotcom
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    I don't mind expert only having 3 dungeons in it per patch, but I do think they need to chop high level in half and make 2 different roulettes instead of one big one. There is a HUGE difference between something like normal WP and Snowcloak, but they're going to all be lumped together making it more Russian roulette than anything.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    There is a HUGE difference between something like normal WP and Snowcloak, but they're going to all be lumped together making it more Russian roulette than anything.
    ^with this, I feel that they will more than likely nerf all 3 dungeons a bit when they are removed and added to the Hard Roulette. I expect it.

    I actually welcome new dungeons for the Extreme Roulette. However I do agree with some of the others in this thread, there needs to be more than 3. The hard mode dungeon list is getting pretty big...
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  7. #17
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    Because the expert dungeons, are the highest ilv?
    Qarn, Sash, Snow, drop lv 80 stuff, i'm sure the new sets are 90.
    Qarn Hard, Sastasha Hard, and Snowcloak drop items you can exchange for the old ilvl90 mythology gear. The duties that drop ilvl80 are Hullbreaker Isle, Tam-Tara Hard, and Stone Vigil Hard. If past duty additions are anything to go by, the new set of duties will reward ilvl100 gear.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    I don't mind expert only having 3 dungeons in it per patch, but I do think they need to chop high level in half and make 2 different roulettes instead of one big one. There is a HUGE difference between something like normal WP and Snowcloak, but they're going to all be lumped together making it more Russian roulette than anything.
    which is why you need to clear them, before you can do the roulette.
    roulette provides bonus to job-in-need, as well as bonus sol/poe, and gil. so....you need to clear them, to get it.
    ppl are already complaining about snowcloak being so easy, so i dont see any reason to nerf it. they may nerf that first boss in Sastasha, though...maybe 2nd one as well; reduce the damage of stacking buff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Qarn Hard, Sastasha Hard, and Snowcloak drop items you can exchange for the old ilvl90 mythology gear. The duties that drop ilvl80 are Hullbreaker Isle, Tam-Tara Hard, and Stone Vigil Hard. If past duty additions are anything to go by, the new set of duties will reward ilvl100 gear.
    oh right, well same idea; expert dungeons are always the top ilv stuff.
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    Last edited by Radacci; 01-17-2015 at 08:32 PM.

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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindheart View Post
    They need to change high level and trial roulette to work like low level roulette. Low level lets you just select from any dungeons you have unlocked even if you have not unlocked them all. The others could be changed to match, as long as you have say 3 different dungeons unlocked you can use them for roulette.
    It was this way in the past. But after SE instructed Expert Roulette with Pharos Sirius and the first 2 HM dungeons, people just didn't unlocked Pharos Sirius (because of the horror stories about it in the forum) and increased with this the queue time for the people who wanted to do this dungeon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    Because the expert dungeons, are the highest ilv?
    Qarn, Sash, Snow, drop lv 80 stuff, i'm sure the new sets are 90.
    Qarn, Sash and Snow drop ilevel 90 equip (the old myth gears). Next 3 would be ilevel 100.
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    Last edited by Felis; 01-17-2015 at 11:46 PM.

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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Qarn Hard, Sastasha Hard, and Snowcloak drop items you can exchange for the old ilvl90 mythology gear. The duties that drop ilvl80 are Hullbreaker Isle, Tam-Tara Hard, and Stone Vigil Hard. If past duty additions are anything to go by, the new set of duties will reward ilvl100 gear.
    Or higher quanities of Canard Breasts. I'd say dalamud popotoes, but at least those can be used for tanking food; canard just leads to skill speed.

    Really though, I wouldn't mind expert having a more diverse pool of dungeons to select from, but I'm more concerned with the amount of dungeons that are saturating high level roulette, especially since it adds on to the dungeons required to unlock it and the required ilvl to access it (is this even for freshly capped 50s right now, or reserved for people who've already geared from high level dungeons?)
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