Please say Heavensward will have a better loot system than Coil

[Elim]

No thanks ill keep the RNG.

Having a token system just screws over the tanks and healers. Because guilds focused on progression give all items to the dps first

I haven't gotten a carbontwine either because both our tanks and dps get it first. I've only gotten one carboncoat for my ring, but I'm fine with that. As long as someone in my group gets gear that helps us progress and/or down bosses faster, I'm game. I'm willing to wait my turn for gear even if that wait is vast. If your group doesn't work by a system you like you could always find one that does, or you could speak to your group leader and let him know of your dissatisfaction. Honest advice here. Why stick with a group that you aren't happy with?

[Zumi]

I haven't gotten a carbontwine either because both our tanks and dps get it first. I've only gotten one carboncoat for my ring, but I'm fine with that. As long as someone in my group gets gear that helps us progress and/or down bosses faster, I'm game. I'm willing to wait my turn for gear even if that wait is vast. If your group doesn't work by a system you like you could always find one that does, or you could speak to your group leader and let him know of your dissatisfaction. Honest advice here. Why stick with a group that you aren't happy with?

Every group that is on the high end of progression gives stuff to the dps first you wouldn't find a good group that doesn't do it that way.

Having a token system where you could pick who gets gear that week would make it so the tanks/healers pretty much get nothing till the dps have everything.

[Elim]

Every group that is on the high end of progression gives stuff to the dps first you wouldn't find a good group that doesn't do it that way.

Having a token system where you could pick who gets gear that week would make it so the tanks/healers pretty much get nothing till the dps have everything.

True. I agree that you wont find a good group that doesn't. That's why I'm content with how things work. I don't need that much gear to do my job. I'd just rather a token system over doing final coil almost pointlessly week after week getting useless dragoon gear.

[dejavutwo]

I'm glad they are moving to a token based system since it feels there are just too many items on too few bosses. I would however, prefer that they merge the random drops and tokens by having the tokens usable by specific classes - like 1 token for melee dps, 1 token for caster dps, 1 token for healers, and 1 token for tanks. That way you keep a little bit of the excitement, but significantly reduce the amount of RNG that can screw someone over.

Feels like every week we go into coil we are always trying to figure out who's alt gets what, despite everyone still needing stuff.

[SekhmetM]

Ehh. . .I'm wary of doing this. It's great for people gearing up their main classes, but it sucks for people trying to gear up alts sometimes. Trying to gear your DRG but have to fill a tank slot? Hope there's another DRG in party who doesn't mind passing! >_>

If you want to gear your alt, then play as your alt.

Sick and tired of all these terrible dragoons running around with Shiva weapons but don't even know how to play the class.

[Viridiana]

If you want to gear your alt, then play as your alt.

Sick and tired of all these terrible dragoons running around with Shiva weapons but don't even know how to play the class.

You're totally missing the point. My main right now is NIN, with BRD being equally geared. However, we all know that finding DPS classes is way easier than finding tanks and heals. So, if I decide to bite the bullet and go on my reasonably-geared SCH so that the group can actually do the content, that would leave me unable to roll on NIN and BRD gear. Have you ever wondered why PF primal parties come together way faster as Greed>Need? It's because it lets people fill the roles the party needs without compromising their ability to gear the class they actually want.

[Giantbane]

No thanks ill keep the RNG.

Having a token system just screws over the tanks and healers. Because guilds focused on progression give all items to the dps first over tanks and healers. Because you need more dps to beat enrage timers faster. It was already bad previously in 2nd coil, i didn't get a sands/oil until they were made available in hunts because dps got them all. I have yet to get a carbontwine because again the dps need them. I am basically forced to do relic for my weapon because well the tomestones dps get first dibs and by the time its my turn to lot my relic is already better then the tomestone weapon.

If you put in a token system that lets you pick a piece of gear after getting tokens yea the tanks and healers would never get any gear until the dps had everything that is a bad system. Because no guild that wants the fastest progression is going to give gear to a tank or healer over a dps when given an option.

So no on a token system I will keep the rng its more fair at least your other jobs besides dps can have a chance to get gear this way instead of waiting like 3 months later to get gear when the dps finally don't need stuff, or we have to spam the casual catch up content to get ilvls caught up to the dps when SE adds easy ways to get items like hunts.

If you have multiple tokens for a single piece of gear (like 3 different head tokens) instead of a single token that's shared by everyone you fix this problem without the problems that having 7 different drops per slot cause

[Skeith-Adeline]

I'd love it. I've cleared T11 enough to earn that goddamned casting coat

[Logo]

You're totally missing the point. My main right now is NIN, with BRD being equally geared. However, we all know that finding DPS classes is way easier than finding tanks and heals. So, if I decide to bite the bullet and go on my reasonably-geared SCH so that the group can actually do the content, that would leave me unable to roll on NIN and BRD gear. Have you ever wondered why PF primal parties come together way faster as Greed>Need? It's because it lets people fill the roles the party needs without compromising their ability to gear the class they actually want.

whatever, wait in Queue with the rest of us :P

[Viridiana]

whatever, wait in Queue with the rest of us :P

Breaks down as soon as you start talking about preformed groups.