Help me choose a melee dps!!

[Dashadow11]

I have main tanked in WoW from vanilla through MoP as a war or druid. Tanking is really all i know! I just see the cool melee and i ask myself, maybe i should try that!

When you say get to 50, do you mean hit 50 and immediately seitch or do i finish out the story quests? Sorry, im newb lol!

[Tex_Mex]

I have main tanked in WoW from vanilla through MoP as a war or druid. Tanking is really all i know! I just see the cool melee and i ask myself, maybe i should try that!

When you say get to 50,do you mean hit 50 and immediately seitch or do i finish out the story quests? Sorry, im newb lol!

Awesome! Ya if you have that tanking experience, then you will be just fine tanking in this game and taking a WAR to 50 first, if that is what you desire. And trust me, when you get your first class to 50, do yourself a favor and finish the main scenario story quests. The ending is EPIC and was one my favorite parts of this game!

Once you hit 50, and if you choose to continue levelling up your warrior, it becomes all about gear. When you first hit 50, you will have an average gear ilvl of around 45-50. As soon as you start doing level 50 content, you will find that the majority of players that will do end game content with you are avg ilvl 95+. While this does not matter for a DPS, it does mean that you will have a difficult time holding threat as a tank until you can improve your gear level a bit. The good news is that holding threat in the early lvl 50 content does not matter that much since most players outgear the content by so much that they could run it without a tank entirely if they had to. So if you choose to go that route, don't be discouraged if you lose threat on enemies, there is nothing you can do about it until you can upgrade your gear. The most important piece for any melee class (tanks included) is your weapon. So look to get that upgraded as fast as you can.

[AlphaDragoon]

I disagree that NIN is the hardest to play, in comparison to the other two. This is arguably debatable. Every job has its WTF's, OOPSIES and everything else... However Mudra lag has no bearing on difficulty to play the class and furthermore is not an issue for me when playing NIN. I've experienced it and it's very easy to get down/anticipate/adapt to...

The only thing that makes NIN a tid bit complicated to play is that I don't have enough room on my hotkeys for what I need on my rotations (PS3)... I'M a Tank and Healer at heart so anticipating when my tank needs TP, I'm usually right on time with Goad. Other than that, NIN IMO is very "leh snore" to play to me.

Mudra lag does not affect difficulty per se, but it does affect your ability to be a good Ninja player. If you've got high latency you can pretty much forget about ever doing the numbers you should be able to do as a NIN, and that's something that shouldn't be ignored when choosing a DPS. The effect of latency on Monk and Dragoon output isn't even in the same universe as it is with Ninja.

[Zedd702]

Mudra lag does not affect difficulty per se, but it does affect your ability to be a good Ninja player. If you've got high latency you can pretty much forget about ever doing the numbers you should be able to do as a NIN, and that's something that shouldn't be ignored when choosing a DPS. The effect of latency on Monk and Dragoon output isn't even in the same universe as it is with Ninja.

Correct you are.

That's what I was implying. But in direct regards to Mudra lag and the other stuff that was quoted in my previous post does not make NIN more difficult class to play than MNK or DRG even with its latency, although I agree it is to be considered when choosing between the three melee DPS, it does not compete with positional requirements of the other two Jobs as NIN can do its damage from anywhere on the enemy...

[HaiHai]

Don't let people throw you off my saying that DRG is "simple". While it most certainly may be at lower levels, the class has an exceedingly high skill ceiling at 50. Although the positional requirements have been eased to be the same style as monks, they still provide significant dmg and should always been utilized. On top of that, DRG has a 24 ability long rotation before it completely "repeats" which is much longer than NIN on MNK. Being accurate and knowing you priority for your off GCD ability weaving is a huge part of your dps, and you must keep doing this on top of keeping track of your rotation/debuffs/buffs/dots/positioning, ect. Not to mention, every time you use a jump you have to know the fight well enough to know that you wont be coming back down to land on something that will kill you. This takes experience and learning but is completely necessary at endgame where jumping at the wrong time could lead to you getting one shot by mechanics or taking massive dmg, and also having the foresight to hold you cd's/jumps for the right moments to maximize their effectiveness.

All in all it's a very well built melee class that can offer something for everyone and is easy to learn but difficult to master.

[Temjiu]

Welcome to FFXIV OP!
Id honestly recommend DRG. im not going to add to the "who's more difficult" debate...I'll just say that DRG is well balanced now, doesn't have a horribly difficult priority list, and allows you time to get a feel for the combat pace and the dungeons as you level. id recommend DRG over the others initially, but really pick what you want. up through the higher tiers of raiding it really doesn't matter. I went Archer/BRD for my first 50. I do feel that going DPS first is best in this game. coming from a decade + experience in MMO's, the learning curve in this one is a bit steeper for the encounters, so it helps to run them as DPS first.

[ViviAnimus]

Ninja is by far the most challenging one. MNK and DRG are equally easy. Don't be fooled by the people who say that MNK is rocket science. It isn't. To be fair, none of the classes are really hard to play. But personally I would go MNK. I choose MNK because it's the most fun and in my opinion the easiest. Well, at least as easy as DRG, although I would say it's harder on DRG to get the numbers.

[Lyndarial]

I've always been partial for Dragoons cause of their gear

[AskaRay]

Huge lack of bard love in here........

haha, but personally if I hadn't gone bard I'd be going ninja for my personal DPS class. You can try them all out and see which one you like to play the most, too.

[Kuwagami]

AoE DPS:
DRG>NIN>MNK
Both NIN and DRG AoE is MILES ahead of MNK. MNK AoE is just awful, but it needs to be as a trade off for their incredible Single Target DPS.

huh ? Nin has AoE possibilities ? Katon every 20 seconds, and that's about it. Monk is far ahead of that with 2 skills, one circular and one conal (ok they cost a lot and leave you TP starved really quick, but still...), and an extra off-GCD conal attack. While not at DRG's level, Monk's AoE is nothing to laugh at.

Compare it with Katon every 20 seconds (if mudra lag lets you...) and a laughable 120 TP 100 potency circular AoE, you know who is better at it.

Hmm, Monk does have 2 skills, but Arm of the Destroyer should never be used for damage really. Much better just using Rockbreaker every Coeurl form while keeping Twin Snakes up and DK'ing as many things as possible in between. Or just Perfect Balance -> Rockbreaker spam. Arm might be viable if you know you can afford the TP against a massive hoard, like at the end of Sastasha HM but the damage is still very poor while eating huge chunks of TP.

I do think Ninja's AoE kinda sucks and is over-rated too, but it's at least better than a Monk without Perfect Balance. The guaranteed crit from Kassatsu on a full-duration Doton is pretty potent, and Katon's...okay....if Doton's already up. Death Blossom is kinda meh. But it's still passable when combined with the Ninjutsus. Drg leaves them both in the dust though.

Touche. I had forgotten about Doton. I guess "less bad" would be a preferred term then regarding ninja vs monk.

Either way, melees shouldn't have to AoE that much in normal gameplay ;D