PLD Cooldown rotations for every fight in FCoB?

[TrivariumOri]

Phase1
1 Flatten : Ramp/Conv
2 Flatten: Hallowed (switch into sword oath until 2nd breath unless you have covered this 1st earth shaker, then stay until 2nd earth shaker goes out)
3 Flatten: N/A

Phase2
1 flatten : Take first flare breath, switch into sword oath until megaflare and have sent and conv up
2 flatten: Ramp/Bulwark
3 flatten: N/A

Phase3.
Add: Pain - foresight, Sin - conv, aware, bul and cover warrior (sometimes not all 3 are up when I run but any 2 of those are more than enough).

1st Death sentence : Rampart
2nd death sentence: Sent

Phase 4
1 ark mor: Ramp/Conv
2 ark mor: warrior holmgang > cover
3 ark mor: Ramp/Conv
4 ark mor: Hallowed
5 ark mor: Everything else.

[SirTaint]

You people are insane. Taking akh morns out of def/shield oath? Why in the holy fuck do you want to put so much pressure on your healers?

Sent is more reduction then shield oath. So it's less curing for the mages and more dps for the raid.

[SeraviEdalborez]

You people are insane. Taking akh morns out of def/shield oath? Why in the holy fuck do you want to put so much pressure on your healers?

Because Akh is actually really easy to heal, especially the first one. Only one that is dangerous is 5, and maybe 2 if your PLD doesn't take back from Holmgang very promptly.

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My T13 rotation:

P1
Flat1: Warrior opens and takes this with all cooldowns available
Flat2: Foresight at Megaflare cast, Rampart at Megaflare circles exploding
Flat3: Usually skip (if we get it, Sent)

P2
Flat4: Ramp (if not up, Sent)
Flat5: Sent (if not up, HG)
Flat6: Ramp+Sent if needed

*The reason HG is done late is so we don't have to wait as long on early-learning wipes for it to be up again, since until we could skip Flat3 it was part of the "normal" rotation. Also using it early for the sake of using it early defeats its point of bridging gaps between your other major cooldowns Ramp and Sent.

P3
Pain: Foresight
DS1: Ramp
DS2: Sent

P4
Akh1: Ramp / Inner Beast + Vengeance
Akh2: afk / Holmgang (queue up Fast, voke>Savage as soon as you see the first small Akh's explosion [BIG > small > small])
Akh3: Ramp at Gigaflare / Inner Beast + whatever
Akh4: Hallowed / afk
Akh5: Ramp+Sent / everything + Holmgang after first couple hits

[Wizhard]

Sent is more reduction then shield oath. So it's less curing for the mages and more dps for the raid.

Amazingly sent+shield oath is even more reduction.

Because Akh is actually really easy to heal, especially the first one. Only one that is dangerous is 5, and maybe 2 if your PLD doesn't take back from Holmgang very promptly.

Yes, thank you, i have killed t13 7 times now, i know how it goes. The question is why do you want to make healing harder.

[Kyt]

Amazingly sent+shield oath is even more reduction.

Yeah, but why in the world would you want to sent+shield oath when 40% reduction is all you need? That's a lot of extra dps you can squeeze out from stance dancing, and you'd still be mitigating an additional 20% over shield oath anyway.

[Wizhard]

Yeah, but why in the world would you want to sent+shield oath when 40% reduction is all you need? That's a lot of extra dps you can squeeze out from stance dancing, and you'd still be mitigating an additional 20% over shield oath anyway.

Having that sentinel is possible with skipping the second death sentence which implies you dont need that extra dps in the first place.

[Rayearth]

When shield and sword oath is no longer on gc... I will start to think about switching it every 10 seconds.

[felcom]

When shield and sword oath is no longer on gc... I will start to think about switching it every 10 seconds.

This is my feeling in general as well.

Has anyone done the math that shows how long a PLD should aim to stay in Sword Oath in order to see a DPS increase assuming that they are MT and will switch back to Shield Oath? Basically, how long should one stay in Sword Oath in order to surpass the DPS loss of two GCDs? If I had to guess, I'd say it would be around 25-30 seconds, so maybe it's not appropriate to switch during Akh Morn, but I don't have any numbers to back that up.

[SirTaint]

Having that sentinel is possible with skipping the second death sentence which implies you dont need that extra dps in the first place.

Until savage comes out there isn't much else to do but min/max DPS. Raiding is 60-90 min a week.

The nice first ahk comes right after Teraflare so you wont miss a GCD stance dancing. If you use sentinel for the first ahk and stay in sword oath you won't have to change back to shield oath until the twister is about to go off during mega flare.

The goal would be to skip the 5th ahk making the entire fight easier and faster.

[Wizhard]

Until savage comes out there isn't much else to do but min/max DPS. Raiding is 60-90 min a week.

The nice first ahk comes right after Teraflare so you wont miss a GCD stance dancing. If you use sentinel for the first ahk and stay in sword oath you won't have to change back to shield oath until the twister is about to go off during mega flare.

The goal would be to skip the 5th ahk making the entire fight easier and faster.

Technically there is an auto-attack before first akh morn. Im not saying its exactly bad, im saying why would you not want to make it even more easier for the healers. That stance-dance dps is negligible compared to, say, just wearing ruby accessories. And as ive said if you skip second DS you are probably skipping 5th akh morn as well so its unnecessary.