Should we be limited to only one craft class?

[DNO]

Under my system I would allow you to rank up to 70 if the cap were 80, but you would have to understand that majority of the best recipes would be above that. And I wouldn't let you attempt the 80's even at rank 70. I would make 80 required recipes.

That means your GLD is largely useless because i can not have access to the best recipes. Which means since sept 2010 i wasted my time on crafts because they are useless. i mean its 100k to rank 50 and i did not do that to be a gimped GLD lol.

[ClashBlades]

That means your GLD is largely useless because i can not have access to the best recipes. Which means since sept 2010 i wasted my time on crafts because they are useless. i mean its 100k to rank 50 and i did not do that to be a gimped GLD lol.

I already explained why you cannot have everybody mastering everything. There will a far greater supply then a demand. This will actually cause crafters to lose money. Because there is so much supply the prices drop constantly. This causes crafters who worked hard to lose money. Limiting supply allows for prices to equalize and rewards the hard work of the crafter. Limiting the supply is in the best interest of crafters. Limiting supply is in the best interest of crafters and mastery is the way to go about that. I know several crafters who have leveled up many different crafts, but they end up selling for incredibly low prices. I would rather have two crafts that I can make money in then 6 crafts that I can't. This is good for crafters.

[Zkieve]

I already explained why you cannot have everybody mastering everything. There will a far greater supply then a demand. This will actually cause crafters to lose money. Because there is so much supply the prices drop constantly. This causes crafters who worked hard to lose money. Limiting supply allows for prices to equalize and rewards the hard work of the crafter. Limiting the supply is in the best interest of crafters. Limiting supply is in the best interest of crafters and mastery is the way to go about that. I know several crafters who have leveled up many different crafts, but they end up selling for incredibly low prices. I would rather have two crafts that I can make money in then 6 crafts that I can't. This is good for crafters.

I agree totally , but people seems to be misunderstanding the main problem here.
We have two systems ffxiv current one and ffxi one.
In ffxi if you wanted to have more than 1 craft maxed you payed the fee rerolled everything (god the pain of sub crafts) and you have more than 1 craft maxed.

In current ffxiv is the same thin but you dont need to reroll or pay the extra.

If we could level only one class, first of all they'd have to redo a few items that require you to have levels in two classes to make.

Second of all, if someone's got the time and money to level 2 or more crafting classes, he should. The only shame is he can't buy all of his mats from an NPC at a reasonable price to get money out of the economy.

You just need to reroll that second class again, is been done that way before.Also this is intended for when they raise cap so current equipment doesnt mean a thin.

Why people can not see the main problem here ?, anyways im off for work .

[DNO]

I already explained why you cannot have everybody mastering everything. There will a far greater supply then a demand. This will actually cause crafters to lose money. Because there is so much supply the prices drop constantly. This causes crafters who worked hard to lose money. Limiting supply allows for prices to equalize and rewards the hard work of the crafter. Limiting the supply is in the best interest of crafters. Limiting supply is in the best interest of crafters and mastery is the way to go about that. I know several crafters who have leveled up many different crafts, but they end up selling for incredibly low prices. I would rather have two crafts that I can make money in then 6 crafts that I can't. This is good for crafters.

I understand your point and it is a good one. But have we every played in a game that let everyone rank up every craft? Plus there are people who do not touch crafts only melee. never ever will everyone actually rank all the classes. so there will still be someone (lots of someones) who will need a crab bow or a repair .

Plus here is the kicker. this game ALREADY allows everyone to rank every class. yet i still see lots of rank 50 crafted gear selling like crazy. We are ALREADY playing the game you are scared of. Its really not proving your point. FF11 had 1 craft per class and the prices where way to high..... thats not what i want again. Also the metria system wil make crafts to useful plus the repair system.

[ClashBlades]

I understand your point and it is a good one. But have we every played in a game that let everyone rank up every craft? Plus there are people who do not touch crafts only melee. never ever will everyone actually rank all the classes. so there will still be someone (lots of someones) who will need a crab bow or a repair .

Plus here is the kicker. this game ALREADY allows everyone to rank every class. yet i still see lots of rank 50 crafted gear selling like crazy. We are ALREADY playing the game you are scared of. Its really not proving your point. FF11 had 1 craft per class and the prices where way to high..... thats not what i want again. Also the metria system wil make crafts to useful plus the repair system.

The only things that sell high are hq items. All nq items are dirt cheap and are pretty much throwaways. As people continue to play the game there are going to be more and more people who have all crafts leveled. It is inevitable. As people cap all of their battlecrafts there are only 2 ways to go. You can gather or you can craft. Eventually as people run out of content they will look to crafts. Having everybody doing everything will be bad for the economy. Keep in mind that I did say mastery of 2 crafts. I believe mastering 2 different crafts would be just right to avoid ludicrous prices due to lack of supply as well as to avoid dirt-cheap prices caused by oversupply.


*** To be honest, The wording of your options will cause this poll to mean nothing. The options are being given subjectively. Do you want delicious tasty ice cream? or do you want a dessert that'll make you fat? The choice is altered depending on the way the options are presented.

[mysterytaru]

*** To be honest, The wording of your options will cause this poll to mean nothing. The options are being given subjectively. Do you want delicious tasty ice cream? or do you want a dessert that'll make you fat? The choice is altered depending on the way the options are presented.

Which is exactly the intention of polls like this asking public opinion on a specific topic. You tailor the questions for the response you're seeking and then announce "See? Everyone hates x!" Then when you look at what was asked, you can see just how big a pile of crap the poll actually was.

[DNO]

Which is exactly the intention of polls like this asking public opinion on a specific topic. You tailor the questions for the response you're seeking and then announce "See? Everyone hates x!" Then when you look at what was asked, you can see just how big a pile of crap the poll actually was.

then go away make your own thread and you will get the same likes and dislikes mr. rank 30

[DNO]

The only things that sell high are hq items. All nq items are dirt cheap and are pretty much throwaways. As people continue to play the game there are going to be more and more people who have all crafts leveled. It is inevitable. As people cap all of their battlecrafts there are only 2 ways to go. You can gather or you can craft. Eventually as people run out of content they will look to crafts. Having everybody doing everything will be bad for the economy. Keep in mind that I did say mastery of 2 crafts. I believe mastering 2 different crafts would be just right to avoid ludicrous prices due to lack of supply as well as to avoid dirt-cheap prices caused by oversupply.


*** To be honest, The wording of your options will cause this poll to mean nothing. The options are being given subjectively. Do you want delicious tasty ice cream? or do you want a dessert that'll make you fat? The choice is altered depending on the way the options are presented.

sounds like another ff MMO doesn't it?

Lets face it there were hundreds of level 75 items that crafters can craft in ff11 that made no profit and that game was 1 craft per person. the only real things that made money was HQ and things where crafters had to fight NMs for parts.... sorta just like this game.

If you can kill a rabbit to get the parts for a rank 50 weapon no matter what the system is the weapon WILL be cheap. so this part of your post is moot.

[ClashBlades]

thanks for the convo. no sense talking to a wall that won't take anything in. In the end SE will decide. If you think you can currently master everything now you are wrong. Currently the theme is Jack of all trades, master of none. There is no need to use profanities. Have a nice day.

[DNO]

thanks for the convo. no sense talking to a wall that won't take anything in. In the end SE will decide. If you think you can currently master everything now you are wrong. Currently the theme is Jack of all trades, master of none. There is no need to use profanities. Have a nice day.

profanities? at you when?
You are wrong. When you lose a debate you leave? I clearly said before that you made a good point but you have no proof. you need to learn to debate and that everyone will not agree with you since you are making *** up. you are guessing about oversupply it has not happened yet in fact it took me 3 months to get my MRD axe +2 and it was about 3 mill.

Fact is i brought up great points. FF11 crafters largely LOST money. they only made money on HQ stuff. same as in this game.