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    So people are seriously ok with even a hint of a intended P2P game giving a small advantage to someone one who pays a few more?.

    I think this community really need a slap in the face and stop complaining about the complainers and understand once and for all that is what the forums are for.

    To make yourself heard.
    If you dont like something then dont post on it and it will pass, it is that simple.
    If people derail or make uncalled /offensive comments that's what devs are for .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    you do realize that 50 won't be the cap forever, correct? The "master" craft will probably come in after the cap increase.
    of course. point is when rank cap is 75 can my rank 50 GLD repair rank 75 gear? the answer is simple "i wasted my time ranking up crafts to repair my gear since i can not repair it anymore" it makes my second craft completely useless.

    This completely changes the game and it completely says i wasted my time. If the rank cap increases i want to rank up all my jobs and thats more then one craft.
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    Last edited by DNO; 08-02-2011 at 05:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    so what? if they are limiting a job i already have at 50 to make it less useful then someone esles craft then im not happy.

    THM got nerfed but EVERY THM got nerfed. If SE limited one of my crafts its different because if i choose not to main it i would have wasted my time. i would have not ranked it up if its useless. and if someone esle wants to main it then they can use all the skills i can't even tho i ranked to 50 the same as they did. thats just not right.
    They arent gymping you , they will make the move once the cap is raised.You will be able to have only a determinate amount of levels with 2 crafts added together.At least thats how it worked in 11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    so what? if they are limiting a job i already have at 50 to make it less useful then someone esles craft then im not happy.

    THM got nerfed but EVERY THM got nerfed. If SE limited one of my crafts its different because if i choose not to main it i would have wasted my time. i would have not ranked it up if its useless. and if someone esle wants to main it then they can use all the skills i can't even tho i ranked to 50 the same as they did. thats just not right.
    you really are going overboard here. Your class will still be useful even if it isn't mastered and 50 won't be the cap forever so the "master" effect probably won't even happen until then. I think you need to clam down, stop freaking out and actually think about the possibilities instead of "ZOMG THEY LIMIT ME I RAGEQUIT SO MAD CANT STAND SE SO MAD THEY LIMIT RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" Besides, even if they did make it so that you can only master 1 of your classes at r50...you will still get to choose which one to master...it won't be <SE>"oh..you have BSM and GLD....hmm...you can only master GLD. GG, have fun being only a GLD"
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    As already posted in the other thread:

    Relax. Actually the Japanese original is far less definite. The author just says that he "thinks that there was something written that somehow sounded like a restriction that only one crafting class can be mastered to the extreme". And he isn't even sure about whether he read that right.

    Thank you Reinhard for the translation. It's not your fault people conjure up wild conspiracy theories out of thin air.

    P.S.: DNO, do us all a favor and learn Japanese to a degree that warrants the surname "Sensei". So you'll at least know what you rage on about.
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    Last edited by Rinsui; 08-02-2011 at 05:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    of course. point is when rank cap is 75 can my rank 50 GLD repair rank 75 gear? the answer is simple "i wasted my time ranking up crafts to repair my gear since i can not repair it anymore"

    This completely changes the game and it completely says i wasted my time. If the rank cap increases i want to rank up all my jobs and thats more then one craft.
    like I said, chill and think. Due to the repair system, I doubt they will limit what you can and cannot level to max rank. There are different ways to "master" a craft than by leveling it to max. Chances are, you will still be able to level all crafts to max rank so that you can still repair any set of gear that you may own, but you won't be able to make certain items nor use certain crafting abilities. Again, chill and think. There are more ways of doing this than just what you keep telling yourself that they are doing.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    you really are going overboard here. Your class will still be useful even if it isn't mastered and 50 won't be the cap forever so the "master" effect probably won't even happen until then. I think you need to clam down, stop freaking out and actually think about the possibilities instead of "ZOMG THEY LIMIT ME I RAGEQUIT SO MAD CANT STAND SE SO MAD THEY LIMIT RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" Besides, even if they did make it so that you can only master 1 of your classes at r50...you will still get to choose which one to master...it won't be <SE>"oh..you have BSM and GLD....hmm...you can only master GLD. GG, have fun being only a GLD"
    Read my post above this.
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    I agree this is pure speculation. However, if SE is planning on limiting mastering a class, they should truly limit classes. For example, whatever arguments can be made for only mastering 1 class can equally apply to DoW and DoM. If you can only master one class, make people pick what class they will master.

    Of course this will never happen. It would be ridiculous!

    Everyone who is ok with limits should place themselves in our shoes. How would you feel if SE told you, you could only master 1 DoW class? or 1 D0M class?

    I play 5 classes. BTN, CRP, TAN, ALC, & ARC. To me, my ARC is my support class. I only started lvling it because I was pissed off that mobs were blocking my logging nodes.

    To me, the whole game is my BTN, CRP, TAN, & ARC. I do not want to pick one DoH to master.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    you really are going overboard here. Your class will still be useful even if it isn't mastered and 50 won't be the cap forever so the "master" effect probably won't even happen until then. I think you need to clam down, stop freaking out and actually think about the possibilities instead of "ZOMG THEY LIMIT ME I RAGEQUIT SO MAD CANT STAND SE SO MAD THEY LIMIT RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" Besides, even if they did make it so that you can only master 1 of your classes at r50...you will still get to choose which one to master...it won't be <SE>"oh..you have BSM and GLD....hmm...you can only master GLD. GG, have fun being only a GLD"
    Whil i agree with some points you make crafts are 90% more useful when you have them at maxed level , that being by skills or by specialization.The only "good" a low ranked crafter can take advantage of is repairs, low level gear making is not a +.Especially as time passes.a maxed crafter will be 90% more usefull than 1 (even a few levels under) most cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinsui View Post
    As already posted in the other thread:

    Relax. Actually the Japanese original is far less definite. The author just says that he "thinks that there was something written that somehow sounded like a restriction that only one crafting class can be mastered to the extreme". And he isn't even sure about whether he read that right.

    Thank you Reinhard for the translation. It's not your fault people conjure up wild conspiracy theories out of thin air.
    Thank you Mr Policeman.
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