Alchemist Potions: Still Lame, 40 levels later...

[RiceisNice]

HQ X-stat potions can be useful for dps-intensive burn phases, it can be treated as another dps cooldown as well. Not to mention that the DEX and INT ones are very very easy to make (with my residential monk being too stubborn to use consumables on progression and only farm runs, blah...)

[Sibyll]

HQ X-stat potions can be useful for dps-intensive burn phases, it can be treated as another dps cooldown as well. Not to mention that the DEX and INT ones are very very easy to make (with my residential monk being too stubborn to use consumables on progression and only farm runs, blah...)

Yea I agree, but Strength potions are much more of a pain if you don't have a fishing retainer. Basically anything that requires of fish in the recipe costs 3-4 times more than an equivalent item that does not. With they'd balance recipes better to account for the lower throughput of harvesting fish relative to those harvested by miners/botanists.

[Alistaire]

What i dont understand is why people eat Flint in the first place. In order to maximize (get the full benefits of) the meals stats you need the following base stats before the food becomes usable:

Gee and here I was thinking "useable" would mean something along the lines of "better than the alternatives". Guess everything has to used to its fullest potential to be useable at all. /rollseyes

Also the acc #s aren't about whether you'd max them, if you're @ 550 acc and using acc food you've got it wrong. Plenty of build options depending on your progress and RNG that will put you in a place to need the extra 5 acc from caviar.

[MeridaQ]

Both the X-potions (Int, Str and Dex) and Potent poisoning potions are extremely using for progression content. When pushing content those potions make a big difference. Of course X-Ethers are always useful too, can't wait for new recipes!

[PROBOUND]

Gee and here I was thinking "useable" would mean something along the lines of "better than the alternatives". Guess everything has to used to its fullest potential to be useable at all. /rollseyes

Also the acc #s aren't about whether you'd max them, if you're @ 550 acc and using acc food you've got it wrong. Plenty of build options depending on your progress and RNG that will put you in a place to need the extra 5 acc from caviar.

My point is your getting the exact same amount of Crit point for point from Omelettes (in your example flint is not better than the alternatives its the same minus the acc/vit). But if you need that extra 5 acc from food that runs 30k a pop by all means! Power to you! Like i said nothing wrong with dining on the finer things if you got it like that. I'm just trying to give advice to the people that cant afford it because i see a lot of people who think they need it or automatically buy the food with the highest stats not understanding that they arent benefiting from them. 5 points of acc is not worth 30k/meal to the average player even though it might be for you.

[RiceisNice]

Keeping in mind of 535 acc required for T13... (speaking from flank/bard)

In order to get the max +16 accuracy from a HQ flint caviar, you need at least 530 accuracy. But if you're at that point, you wouldn't even need flint caviar since the omelette would give you the same amount of accuracy (which probably pushes you the cap) or you cant get more accuracy from flint (and if you can, you're capped anyway with omelette...) You'd need 525 accuracy to reach 535 cap with the omelette, and 520 with the flint, that's the only advantage I'd see if your gear doesn't allow for that.

You also probably don't have enough crit to get more than the omelette anyway; you'd need over 580 crit to gain 1 crit over the omlette.

[Whiston]

Both the X-potions (Int, Str and Dex) and Potent poisoning potions are extremely using for progression content. When pushing content those potions make a big difference. Of course X-Ethers are always useful too, can't wait for new recipes!

I definitely agree the stat potions are extremely useful, they are a significant increase to your base stats for burst periods.
I don't feel potent poisoning potions are worthwhile anymore though. They have always been a flat damage of five ticks of 48-52ish. It hasn't scaled with the game, and whereas in 2.0 the entire party could drop those potions and significantly increase damage, at this point it's less worthwhile than your weakest off gcd skill.