Famitsu FFXIV vol 1 summer 2011

[Zkieve]

I didn't realize you were being forced to pay.

If you want to level more than 1 crafter class , not only you have to pay , but you also have to redo all the sub crafts.
"then dont do it".Well i want to do it but im not willing to pay for it.
Been there , done that in 11 before.Is one thing i was hoping i didnt have to deal with here.

Complaining for the sake of complaining is bad.
But defending SE for the sake of defending SE is just as bad.
Bad mechanics should be complained about.

[weeble]

To all the people complaining about the coming changes and planned changes: if it was in the game design vision before Dec 2010, chances are that it's not in there now. Tanaka's game is dead. Get over it. Tanaka's vision was failing to keep players because there was no focus and you could do everything yourself w/o ever talking to another person. This is Yoshida's game now. Changes are coming. Drastic changes. We, the players, asked for them. If you don't like having to interact with people to get things done, your best bet is to quit now because it's only gonna get harder for the antisocial "I wanna do everything on my own and shouldn't need to seek help if I don't want it" crowd.

no offense mister rank 30lnc but if i want to hit max lv on one class, then instead of thinking i beat the game do it again on another craft that should be my choice, has nothing to do with antisocialism. has to do with wanting to always be progressing in game. being able to do a little more then others is a nice reward for it, and on top of that people who can throw money at it can still level more classes then one so that makes it a bad system, i can buy 2 account with extra 3bucks then it ok to level 2crafts? that is a wrong type of system to have.

[Kallera]

Yea leveling sub crafts again and again is so much fun .Is not even about the main craft anymore.
I fail to see how can you support such a thing.
I have no idea what your talking bout tera and what not or balance etc.
was never my point but you never get my point anyways ehehe.

Edit: let me simplify it for ya, since you get carried away every time speaking about unrelated stuff.

1. it makes you pay for alts.
2. it makes you play alts.
3. you have to re-level all subcrafts + the part of the main craft you already leveled in your main as a sub for a different craft.

Or you could, I dunno, be social and get some ls connections as a crafter. We already have them being made already. This whole game isn't meant to be beaten all by yourself. Besides, it can only mean more items able to be sold in bazaars.

[DNO]

I didn't realize you were being forced to pay.

You could not force people to play because the game sucks. HOWEVER if you take away one of the ONLY features that people liked in the game that is almost exclusive to Final fantasy MMos and its only good feature over the millions of other MMOS then you have a dead game.

Just look around people do not like this so im sure as SE tries to "make good" with its fanbase this feature will not happen.

[TheVedis]

To those talking about master crafters and such, only 1 craft can be mastered

chances are....they will add some sort of "specialization" or something around those lines that give you huge penalties if you dont have it, and youll be limited to get just the 1, but youll be able to craft to max level in every craft

so lets take an example of this

Blacksmithing may have a "weaponsmaster" trait that you can get, but if you get it, you can never get any other of these "master" traits from any other class.
And it may be a requirement to make items for the higher rank items. And while sure you can still rank up to top rank, you sure as hell cant make everything without the specialization(you may be stuck to parts only later without it)

i see them more going something along those lines as far as only mastering 1 craft late game, and i dont see them restricting the ability to level the actual classes

[Zkieve]

Or you could, I dunno, be social and get some ls connections as a crafter. We already have them being made already. This whole game isn't meant to be beaten all by yourself. Besides, it can only mean more items able to be sold in bazaars.

What does being social have to do anything to do with this?
Im not gonna level because my level 50 friends can beat the dungeon for me .
Is that what your saying?

You can be social and have a sense of self achievement as well.if i want to have 2 crafts leveled at max i should be able to w-o having to pay extra for it.

To those talking about master crafters and such, only 1 craft can be mastered

chances are....they will add some sort of "specialization" or something around those lines that give you huge penalties if you dont have it, and youll be limited to get just the 1, but youll be able to craft to max level in every craft

so lets take an example of this

Blacksmithing may have a "weaponsmaster" trait that you can get, but if you get it, you can never get any other of these "master" traits from any other class.
And it may be a requirement to make items for the higher rank items. And while sure you can still rank up to top rank, you sure as hell cant make everything without the specialization(you may be stuck to parts only later without it)

i see them more going something along those lines as far as only mastering 1 craft late game, and i dont see them restricting the ability to level the actual classes

I dont see such a complex system ever happening.This is just going to be ffxi type of restriction.

[DNO]

Or you could, I dunno, be social and get some ls connections as a crafter. We already have them being made already. This whole game isn't meant to be beaten all by yourself. Besides, it can only mean more items able to be sold in bazaars.

i wish people would grow up and realize EVERYONE LEFT IN THIS GAME IS SOCIAL. i have a LS i have rank 50s. I WANT to level crafts so i can be MORE social. i can make money by fixing lots of peoples gears and make friends that way. (in fact thats what people do)

JUST because i can have more then one craft on rank 50 DOES NOT mean i dont need to be social WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

[Zkieve]

i wish people would grow up and realize EVERYONE LEFT IN THIS GAME IS SOCIAL. i have a LS i have rank 50s. I WANT to level crafts so i can be MORE social. i can make money by fixing lots of peoples gears and make friends that way. (in fact thats what people do)

JUST because i can have more then one craft on rank 50 DOES NOT mean i dont need to be social WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

fact is the more tools you have at your disposal the better you can help others = way more active social life in game .
This is true.

[DNO]

fact is the more tools you have at your disposal the better you can help others = way more active social in game life.
This is true.

thank you.. i have this friend.. he has 5 rank 50 jobs.... i love him. cause he can fix everything... i made friends with him cause of that one reason. now he knows my friends and i know his. ====== SOCIAL!!!!

[DNO]

I stopped taking you seriously after the first line. You're another douche who thinks rank is everything and people who aren't capped aren't allowed to have opinions or opinions that matter.

while mab he was a little rude his point still stands. YOU want people to pay more to play more. i already paid for the Collections ED. i will soon be paying monthly and you WANT SE to make people who like to craft pay more for more then one job? WHY? How does this even make sense as a customer?

What if SE said "ok you can level only 1 DoW the rest you need a mule for at an extra 3 bucks a month".. sounds really stupid doesnt it? this is what you are saying.