Fishing and how it..

[desufin]

Dare I mention Forager's gear?

This is a silly mention. The effect of increased gathering to prevent 3-star fish to escape is abysmal if it even has an effect at all. That said I have 375 gathering unbuffed which is the cap without food/FC buff and Ironworks Rod, 399 with food, 409 with food&FC (which I never have) and it escaped me SEVENTEEN times before I caught it. Terpsichorean is a 2.3 crab meaning foragers gear didn't exist and just in general I'm even unbuffed way above the gathering requirement for it, it just has a stupid high rate of escape for literally no other reason than to annoy you. Judging by comments on other fish however it's not alone in this regard as Green Jester & The Matriarch seems to have similar issues like this. HOWEVER neither have a dumb weather requirement attached as well meaning I can just go whenever I feel like it without having to wait for a specific weather.

you will catch it sooner or later if you just focus on the fish which are available, there are plenty of fish with 5% weather conditiond and even worse 5% followed by 20% and things like that

If you mean Mahar/Shonisaurus/Helicoprion I'm well aware of the rare weather requirements (if you remember I posted about catching Mahar in the first few days of 2.4 coming out in the Big Fish 2.4 Speculation thread). But I'm also aware that once that weather requirement hits, it's incredibly unlikely that either Mahar or Shonisaurus escapes you SEVENTEEN TIMES (can't speak for Helicoprion, it just seems he bites rarely is all). Hell most people report catching Shonisaurus in the first window they finally try and fish for it with the necessary stats. Shonisaurus is also not a requirement to catch to get the Ironworks Rod, however if you have a FC that is willing to put up a +perception/gathering buff for you, you may as well go for the legendary fish in replacement for dumb shit like Terpsichorean just to get the 106 big fish achievement in the first place. That in itself is a really horrible design. Why should an achievement be easier to get with the "supposedly" hardest fish to catch over previous patches fishes? Oh wait, it shouldn't. Terpsichorean and any other fish with similar stupid escape rates are just pure bad design and shouldn't exist, simple as that.

[ColdHearted]

man, u are an angry fisherman! When I fish I just cast a line and drink some beer :P

[Laladyn]

I have to Aggree, Fishing is really frustrating ! Fishes get away way to often. It isnt enough that you have the 2% chance of catching one along with weather requirement and on many fishes double and triple mooch, and on top of that on some fish have a small 2 min fisher intuition window, no thats not enough the fishes get away more then they dont of the time. Frustrating yes, fun no!

[RayneBoemir]

Yea this game is replete with RNG you just need to get used to it. I just take it one fishing session at a time.

[Shadygrove]

I have to Aggree, Fishing is really frustrating ! Fishes get away way to often. It isnt enough that you have the 2% chance of catching one along with weather requirement and on many fishes double and triple mooch, and on top of that on some fish have a small 2 min fisher intuition window, no thats not enough the fishes get away more then they dont of the time. Frustrating yes, fun no!

So there I was with my fisher alt in Cape Westwind. Second time ever I see that message while fishing.

I'm going to mooch or double mooch Pirate's Bane in 2 minuets? Instantly HQ goby. Normal hit.... HQ Wahoo! But its also in the titanic sawfish window....

Pirate's Bane!!!! /dance

[desufin]

So there I was with my fisher alt in Cape Westwind. Second time ever I see that message while fishing.

I'm going to mooch or double mooch Pirate's Bane in 2 minuets? Instantly HQ goby. Normal hit.... HQ Wahoo! But its also in the titanic sawfish window....

Pirate's Bane!!!! /dance

Congrats!

As an update, I now have my Ironworks Rod and Master Caster title, there's a few fish that still elude me (Kuno for Feast of Famine being the main one right now because of the ridiculous double mooch requirements, even a 25min buff doesn't make it fair) and frankly, it's obvious that FSH is not for the casual (if you want to get the big fish) and over half of the big fish don't feel like SE balanced them at all when considering time of day, weather and possible buff/mooch requirements. I could name several fish that are outright insane outside the ones I've already have here and in another thread in the DoL subsection but overall I would say Coerthas is by far the worst zone when it comes to this.

That said, I sure can't wait for 2.5 for SE to ruin FSH some more, seems every patch makes it worse in some way but I'll keep on going and keep on /fuming because it's apparently what SE wants from FSH

[Shneibel]

So there I was with my fisher alt in Cape Westwind. Second time ever I see that message while fishing.

I'm going to mooch or double mooch Pirate's Bane in 2 minuets? Instantly HQ goby. Normal hit.... HQ Wahoo! But its also in the titanic sawfish window....

Pirate's Bane!!!! /dance

Pirate's Bane ? it only took me 2 stack of worms and I slaughted a lot of silver sharks and theirs family too

[Thistledown]

I actually like the heavy rng of fishing and find it to be very healthy for me.

I love to hate rng, but I don't have to move around everywhere and compete with other people like FATE camping for animus or atma.

Rng without competiton is so much fun.

[Duuude007]

Ive gone with 399 gathering trying to get Faerie Queen up by Moraby bay. 13 bites, 13 "fish got away".

Some of these are frusterating as hell, lol...

[NationOfZealots]

It is why no one plays FSH apart from those that have datamined the hell out of it and have it down to a fine art due to third party applications, whereas the regular FSH player is "WTF"