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    Well, one reason you're getting comms is that no one is really looking at why things happen, just at what happens. They see someone die, it was the healer's fault, no comms for them. They see the tank lose aggro, it's the tank's fault, no comms for them. DPS pulls aggro? Clearly, they must be a better DPS than the other DPS because they're doing more damage. So, "logically," the person who deserves the comms is the "better" DPS.

    This means that, even though it's your fault you are pulling aggro from the tank, and your fault you died, and even though the other DPS is doing better at his role by NOT drawing aggro, you emerge looking better than the rest. So, if you want to comm farm and don't care about making every run you're in miserable for the other players, keep it up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post

    This means that, even though it's your fault you are pulling aggro from the tank, and your fault you died, and even though the other DPS is doing better at his role by NOT drawing aggro, you emerge looking better than the rest. So, if you want to comm farm and don't care about making every run you're in miserable for the other players, keep it up?
    Holding aggro is very easy in this game, about 95% of the time if a DPS has aggro it is the tanks fault. Don't be dense. Understand which game you are playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    Holding aggro is very easy in this game, about 95% of the time if a DPS has aggro it is the tanks fault. Don't be dense. Understand which game you are playing.
    "Don't be dense?" Seriously? Degenerating into personal attacks this fast? Wow.

    Yeah, so anyway, when a tank is holding aggro on 10+ enemies, and a DPS goes all out on one of them while the other is using AoEs, the tank is going to lose aggro on something even if they're a good tank.
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    Last edited by Nyalia; 01-09-2015 at 04:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Don't be dense?
    Yet you continue, AoE Threat is so easy now after all of the buffs they gave it. You single target a single mob and a good tank could still easily hold thread. Maybe you think this isn't FFXIV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    "Don't be dense?" Seriously? Degenerating into personal attacks this fast? Wow.

    Yeah, so anyway, when a tank is holding aggro on 10+ enemies, and a DPS goes all out on one of them while the other is using AoEs, the tank is going to lose aggro on something even if they're a good tank.
    Well..

    1) The rank doesn't always have to pull massive groups of enemies.
    2) If the DPS can't pull hate off of a tank that feels he/she needs to pull that many enemies, while single targeting to attack.. then your dps players are pretty bad.

    Most DPS that do this though are probably thinking, ever enemy the kill quickly, is one less enemy that is hitting the tank. Less heals the healer has to use on the tank.

    Also, for most DPS, if they pull hate on an enemy (unless it hits stupid hard ) they should be able to kill it before it kills them.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 01-09-2015 at 05:30 AM.