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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    Going by your logic, why have any accuracy on equipment at all?
    I think you missed the point of the comparison.

    If you want to drop accuracy, there's room to play around on the left side as well. Almost every piece of IW with accuracy has a DW counterpart without it, and vice versa.
    Because outside of coil accuracy isnt needed. Never said anything to drop accuracy, so I've no idea how you jumped to the wold conclusion, as I state I need to switch back to dread bracelet when we doing turn 13 for the accuracy and you do not need t13 accuracy for t10-12 so, if you have the gear why not switch it aruond to drop your acc for the lower turns to push out a bit more DPS? Thus I use true ice bracelet for t10-12 because Im still at accuracy cap for those turns, sooner stuff dies, more time we can get practicing t13. Also for t12 that extra DPS makes getting 4 Bennus much more comfortable.

    But you missing the point that ilvl is not the be all and end all depending on itemisation with secondaries. Another example, my Zodicrack relic weighs higher than the augmented Ironworks due to secondaries, by jumping that extra 5 ilvls I would lose on DPS.

    By your logic:

    I'm using http://xivdb.com/?item/8599/Ironwork...ss-of-Striking

    When http://xivdb.com/?item/8960/Dreadwyr...as-of-Striking drops I should use that until I get the twine.

    Yet the 120 weighs in 63.15 stat weight. The Dread, I don't need the accuracy so that is a non factor (already can cap for t13) weighs in at 56.798 stat weight. So yeah, my little number saying Ilvl would increase by (probably) 1, but my DPS would drop the equivalent of 9 STR. My effective HP with food is just under 6.8k so well past threshold for t13. That extra 2 def/mdef will not make any noticeable difference either.

    Also I didn't miss the point of the comparison, you showed another option that does weigh more than true ice bracelet+ironworks earring, yet you missed a combination that I highlighted that weighs even more than both of the pairs you used. You used one paring to prove a opint without taking all combinations into the fat as the one I posted proves I am correct in this case ^_^
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 01-09-2015 at 01:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post

    Well supposably there wont be anymore 4 star recipes added as stated by Yoshi. So there may or may not be any ilvl 110 acc recipes, unless they intend to make them easier than the present 4 star recipes, but not long to find out XD
    Do you have a source for this? This is sort of huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoxastic View Post
    Do you have a source for this? This is sort of huge.
    Trying to find it, pretty sure it was mentioned in one of the fan-fest Q&As. where they said they wont be adding anymore high difficulty crafting recipes but more medium difficulty ones instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Because outside of coil accuracy isnt needed.
    Shiva Extreme would like to speak with you. Primal fights have started having relevant Accuracy caps since Leviathan. It's definitely needed outside of coil. The caps definitely aren't as high as the furthest point in Coil, but disregarding them in such a manner will lead to misses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Shiva Extreme would like to speak with you. Primal fights have started having relevant Accuracy caps since Leviathan. It's definitely needed outside of coil. The caps definitely aren't as high as the furthest point in Coil, but disregarding them in such a manner will lead to misses.
    But you get to those caps easily enough without even focusing on accuracy.

    Still standing on my point tho that ilvl isnt the only measuring stick for gear XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    But you get to those caps easily enough without even focusing on accuracy.

    Still standing on my point tho that ilvl isnt the only measuring stick for gear XD
    You seriously do. I've gone through my gear several times now adjusting it to shuck off excess accuracy.

    Tank gear has so much accuracy on it it isn't even funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    You seriously do. I've gone through my gear several times now adjusting it to shuck off excess accuracy.

    Tank gear has so much accuracy on it it isn't even funny.
    You're right, it isn't funny when drops dictate I am not accuracy capped for T13 without dropping ilvl, even with the highest acc food in the game. Thankfully a week later fending hands dropped again to fix that issue, but I'm still acc starved on both BLM/SMN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    I said "STR and VIT". The only place where you sacrifice both for secondaries is left side armor, i.e. Wootz melds.

    My comment remains correct.
    Your comment remains incorrect as a broad statement

    As I said, for most 4 peeps content you have more than enough HP with just the left side, right side accessories you can switch out for DPS accs, which is a drop in Vit. Also, as striking version of true ice bracelet is 120, you will lose STR and VIT. But due to itemisation, you gain DPS over the 130 versions.
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