How do you meet the accuracy requirement for endgame raids?

[Donjo]

Indeed, I only want the acc for less miss on Miasma (for some reason I never missed my Aero or maybe I never noticed it missing) so I probably won't need to go all out.

Aero can miss. Guess you're just getting lucky. It's Bio, Bio II, and Shadowflare that can't miss, I believe.

[Aurelinaus]

Short answer I don't. Not going to gimp myself to not miss the occasional miasma. Not missing miasma is not a big deal being able to solo double prey during adds saving your whm 1k+ mp, and freeing them up to do whatever is.

[Kaisha]

Short answer I don't. Not going to gimp myself to not miss the occasional miasma. Not missing miasma is not a big deal being able to solo double prey during adds saving your whm 1k+ mp, and freeing them up to do whatever is.

30 less HP healed per Physick when they're doing 1.3k+ as it is isn't going to kill anyone.

Double prey is a non-issue. You adlo one target, they swift-stoneskin the other, then you return to bane'ing dots on the add pairs until the next preys where applicable. Not exactly much healing to do in that phase with medica2 and regen up.

If you're not confident enough to DPS, or simply don't want to fully utilize your job, that's fine. I do it because it gives me something to do, and leads to quicker clears.

[DududeDude]

Short answer I don't. Not going to gimp myself to not miss the occasional miasma. Not missing miasma is not a big deal being able to solo double prey during adds saving your whm 1k+ mp, and freeing them up to do whatever is.

You can solo double prey anyway though? It's just cast Adlo on one target, swiftcast Adlo on the other target. I'm kind of confused how wearing crafted accessories interferes with your ability to do so.

[himym]

Ugh, i dont know what to meld for my Novus scholar book i kind of want to go accuracy + CRIT maxing out the crit but then i see videos of collision's scholars they dont have any accuracy and just do 400-500+ dps lol -,- so now idk if i should just go determination maybe? im on t13 in t12 -,- i kept missing wtih like 423 accuracy only 2ilvl90 accessories meld'd it wasnt so bad but one time i missed 4x in a roll which was kind of -,- but yeah....and when i watched collision scholars do it they had no problem 400+ lol my dps entering add phase is like 180-200 :/

[Tranquil]

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I dunno which videos you've been watching, but from the sounds of it, you're talking about T12. That massive DPS comes from the initial Whitefire inflation with Baned dots running for nearly full duration on three targets + the boss as usual (and Shadow Flare ticking on at least two Whitefires as well). This inflation becomes especially big if you get a 2nd set of Blackfires + Whitefires before the boss transitions into Brand.

Of course, the DPS flow can continue to be high even thereafter, but it does not become 400-500+, instead slowly falling down from those numbers as the fight goes on. (Depending on the degree of Ruin spamming and if the SCH keeps their dots running up full time). Opening DPS is always more strong due to BV Foe + X-Mind pot for DPS (maybe even Trick Attack) - and for T12 - it becomes even more noticeable with the flow staying really high from Baning the Whitefires. The DPS does go down pretty fast if the flow is not kept up, though.

Not being accuracy capped can net you some decent DPS numbers if the degree to which you DPS is simply having your dots up and re-applying if you can. In these cases, 60% of your dots will never miss (Bio, Bio II, Shadow Flare) and with Miasma and Aero potentially being able to miss (still more likely to hit than not hit if you have a tiny bit of accuracy + food).

Remember, in the above cases, your MND (INT in Cleric Stance) is higher because you are not dumping any MND into melded gear for accuracy, ie. if your dots do hit - they will tick for a higher amount of damage than they would with a lower MND/INT and more accuracy. So if your off-DPS is more limited, it can be worth it to (nearly) maximize MND so that the minor misses on dot-reapplications can be countered - more or less - with the higher INT value in Cleric Stance. Not sacrificing any MND and eating full-on accuracy food can achieve some results, or then only getting like 1 slot of crafted gear for minimal MND losses and getting closer to the accuracy cap.

This, of course, also depends on which encounter we're talking about. T10 and T11 are pretty easy to do with a very high MND set because of the lower accuracy requirements (470 + 480), whereas T12/13 have higher accuracy requirements for which you have to either dump MND for melded gear or then have god-tier luck with Miasma/Aero hits and finding a sweet spot where they don't miss often.

If you want to actually hit the accuracy cap or be close to it, you do lose some MND/INT (assuming you don't have the i125 book with accuracy in it and no access to a i130/135 book anyway), in which case the accuracy stacking starts to become more worth it if you actually get in the Ruin-spamming territory with your off-DPS. In these cases, on top of the never-missing dots and Energy Drains, the lost MND will be made up for. However, if you simply occassionally re-apply dots but kind of still play conservatively, losing that MND might not be worth it.

Edit:

On the DPS threshold note, it is possible to be in the 400 range for the add phase start of T12, though. I've been over 300 DPS by the time we've entered the Bennu phase since our first T12 kill and when I still had a i115 book (and we have no NIN in our static to further boost the deeps a bit). We were more concerned about the numbers at that point (gunning at a first clear), so I can tell you that I was hitting 320~ with a i115 book and otherwise baseline i110, by the time we hit 52%. (Some attempts worse, some better). Those numbers back then already were achieved by still Adloing Flame-swaps and throwing an extra Adlo on the MT/OT at times depending on the situation.

Now, though, as we only do a quick clear of the FCOB, I am more concerned about hitting my DPS records for the whole encounters and not paying attention to stuff like p1+p2 DPS too much. For T12 in particular and using the i130 book that I have now (no T13 book dropped yet), the number is closer to 400 for sure, but I don't actually pay that much attention to ACT except by the end of the kill. Could tell you next week, though.

[Gallus]

I personally have an infamous full accuracy + piety + a few crit points nexus and I have never regretted it. I can push DPS on T10 and T11 and even if someone dies and or we somehow lose DPS here or there, we always meet the DPS requirement for FCoB because I bring an average of 100-150 which really makes a big difference (without it, we are at around 1950-2k DPS).

To the people that say "if your healers need to DPS it's because you are doing it wrong". You are really really really looking this from a very wrong perspective. It's not about needing or not needing, it's about taking your job and bringing its 100% potential onto the table.

[Donjo]

I personally have an infamous full accuracy + piety + a few crit points nexus and I have never regretted it. I can push DPS on T10 and T11 and even if someone dies and or we somehow lose DPS here or there, we always meet the DPS requirement for FCoB because I bring an average of 100-150 which really makes a big difference (without it, we are at around 1950-2k DPS).

To the people that say "if your healers need to DPS it's because you are doing it wrong". You are really really really looking this from a very wrong perspective. It's not about needing or not needing, it's about taking your job and bringing its 100% potential onto the table.

Um, you just described situations where Healer DPS reportedly saved the day because people screwed up. That's literally the Healer needing to DPS to meet the check because the party was doing it wrong.

[Gallus]

Um, you just described situations where Healer DPS reportedly saved the day because people screwed up. That's literally the Healer needing to DPS to meet the check because the party was doing it wrong.

This isn't a "I'm gonna be a 10/10 player because others play bad", this is a "I'm gonna be a 10/10 player because I can".

[Donjo]

This isn't a "I'm gonna be a 10/10 player because others play bad", this is a "I'm gonna be a 10/10 player because I can".

All I'm saying is that you used the wrong example to attempt to prove your point. The point people are trying to make when they say "if healer DPS is necessary then you're doing it wrong" is that the encounters are theoretically designed around healers who do 0 DPS. Therefore, if healer DPS is actually necessary to clear the encounter when all other conditions are optimal, then you're not getting enough DPS from other sources. This certainly doesn't apply to the highest tier raiders who used healer DPS to beat the Final Coil at the bare minimum level of necessary gear. Those situations are groups being clever enough to bypass gear checks with skill. Right now, however, even groups who have never entered the Final Coil should have the gear to provide enough DPS from just their Tanks and DPS to meet the initial checks there. In a group that possesses the correct level of gear, Healer DPS should be a bonus, not a necessity.