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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    First off, if you're so justified in what you did, there's little reason to be defensive about it. I said what I said to make a point, and work a little psychology on you as well. I apologize for that and only that, but the fact remains that you've taken a defensive stance on what you felt was a good move for the situation. Were it actually the right thing to do, then there'd be little reason to take the defensive. But at this point, I'm just being fecetious in saying that.

    If he was so truly unresponsive, then no, I won't disagree with your actions. And no, never once did I say only tanks can tank. I pride myself of being able to tank as a Bard, the weakest DPS. But just because I can doesn't mean I will the moment a tank hesitates or runs into trouble, but perhaps I'm more patient than I ought to be. The only time I'll tank outside of actually queuing as a tank is if the tank goes down, or in special cases where I can simply do my part to intercept something my tank might miss, or to ease his burden. And even then, it's never done spitefully. I get your point, really I do. Healers aren't weak at all. We can take a few hits and keep doing what we do best. But fact is, we're healers. Carts don't pull horses, horses pull carts. This means, simply: tanks don't heal, and healers don't tank. Maybe they can, but that is not what the role or class is built around.

    I will retract my statement that by not communicating you made him into a bad tank. That was harsh in delivery. But the core of it stands. If you're the experienced player and you don't make an effort to help those who are coming up, then you can't complain when there's one more fresh 50 who doesn't know his role properly. No, none of us are responsible for each and every other player, and some simply can't be taught. Again, not a fault of our own. But the community is built or destroyed by communication and cooperation. If we all go in selfishly pursuing our own interests and ready to step over each other just for the sake of speed, then we deserve to fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
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    Snarky response then slight backpedaling before getting back on point, well played.

    But then you stick with how things should be done because that's the way they should be done. Healer dies in a boss fight, you should wipe. Even if you were able to finish off the boss by kiting after the other three people had died, you should have just wiped and done the fight the "right way."
    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    But look at his posts, carefully please, and notice how much of it amounts to justification of actions taken that are in fact, largely outside of the realm of his primary abilities. No, this is not "tanks tank because they're tanks" or some such nonsense. But this is saying that there's little to be learned when you're shoved aside and someone just takes over. Maybe some can, but let's be realistic here; most wouldn't learn. Call me cynical if you will.
    Maybe they didn't learn the other way, and this is the way that actually hits home. Again you use conjecture, feel free to accuse me of doing the same. My point remains that you don't need a tank class tanking lowbie dungeons, and the tank isn't the only job in the group that can lead a party. Deflect and insult, accuse me of being defensive again, that seemed to work well.
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