Wootz HQ (ilv110) melds, good set up

[ArkAurelius]

Im working on getting a set to gain that little extra push for Future raid attempts.

In the meanwhile, i've been messing around with ariyala's Toolkit to work out an
"optimal" stat build.

I wanna clarify that I am not going for a full DET/CRIT build even tho I am aware of FCoB's DPS checks(cause then not enough accuracy), but a more balanced set reaching what i believe would be desired overall stats.

Also, the accesories are what I currently have, this is not a BiS build, just a
"what if" set to work for raids in the meantime

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/P30L

What do you think?

[SpookyGhost]

Don't meld Crit over Det (Body, Hands, & Boots).

Melding +6 Parry is worthless (Body & Feet).

If this is for the character you're currently posting from, I wouldn't bother at all. Full i120 left side is better than i110 HQ unless you're trying to min/max DPS, which it doesn't seem like you are from how your post is worded. Secondary stats won't hold much value for you at this point.

If you want to invest in anything, I'd recommend the upcoming i110 crafted STR/VIT accessories as you'll get more value out of those than any of this.

[ArkAurelius]

After looking at the current prices on some materials, mainly det and crit, I decided to forego this build with a cheaper alternative. The reason melded parry and SS on the pieces I have was merely for the sake of pentamelding. Would've added for crit or det but I just didn't have the Gil for them. Working in making more Gil and testing my luck on some savage IV materials before I continue melding the rest.

And while what you say makes sense over the ilv120 gear being better than the crafted Ilv110 gear, the difference in damage say otherwise to me. I'll be finishing the melds with 300 -310 Det regardless, and I wont be sacrificing much HP in the end.

[Ellatrix]

Sacrificing STR and VIT for secondaries on tank is wrong 100% of the time.

[Sapphic]

Sacrificing STR and VIT for secondaries on tank is wrong 100% of the time.

Sacrificing STR, yeah sometimes, depends on the secondaries. EG true ice bracelet of Striking (ilvl 120) weighs heavier than either of the 130 DPS bracelets. For Vit? depends on the encounter, our first t10 kill was when our WAR forgot to switch back to Vit accs. Theres a cut off point where stacking more Vit becomes irrelevant and better served boosting secondaries for "moar DEEPS" XD.

Pretty much only fight where you need every bit of HP as tank is t13.

[CGMidlander]

Sacrificing STR, yeah sometimes, depends on the secondaries. EG true ice bracelet of Striking (ilvl 120) weighs heavier than either of the 130 DPS bracelets.

If you look at the piece individually, sure, but as a part of a complete set of equipment, not necessarily.
If you use an i130 bracelet with accuracy, you can probably switch out another piece of accuracy equipment to one without accuracy.

e.g.
True Ice Bracelet of Slaying + Augmented Ironworks Earrings of Slaying = 44 str, 22 acc, 29 crit, 14 det
But if you replace the TI Bracelet with say, an Augmented Ironworks one and the earrings with Dreadwyrm : 46 str, 22 acc, 26 det, 15 ss
Still 22 accuracy, but higher total weighting.

Sacrificing ilvl is not a good idea.

[Nutz]

I think you'll have much more luck when the ilvl 110 accessories are released (almost certainly later this month). In general left side pieces aren't missing enough that you'd get much of a boost, and dropping STR on all of them makes any sort of gains from secondaries even more difficult to achieve.

[Sapphic]

If you look at the piece individually, sure, but as a part of a complete set of equipment, not necessarily.
If you use an i130 bracelet with accuracy, you can probably switch out another piece of accuracy equipment to one without accuracy.

e.g.
True Ice Bracelet of Slaying + Augmented Ironworks Earrings of Slaying = 44 str, 22 acc, 29 crit, 14 det
But if you replace the TI Bracelet with say, an Augmented Ironworks one and the earrings with Dreadwyrm : 46 str, 22 acc, 26 det, 15 ss
Still 22 accuracy, but higher total weighting.

Sacrificing ilvl is not a good idea.

And if you take dreadwyrm earring+true ice bracelet it weighs even higher than both.

True Ice Bracelet of Slaying + Augmented Ironworks Earrings of Slaying = 44 str, 22 acc, 29 crit, 14 det = 54.91
Augmented Ironwork bracelet and the Dreadwyrm earrings = 46 str, 22 acc, 26 det, 15 ss = 57.286

Now True Ice Bracelet+dread earrings = 44 str, 29 det, 14 crit, 15 sks = 59.83

So yes, ilvl isn't the be all and end all depending on secondaries Thats calculated with MNK stat weights Other jobs will have a slight varience in results due to sks. For t10 to 12 I have enough accuracy to use that pair, for turn 13 I have to switch to Dread bracelet for the acc, Dread Bracelet weighs slightly higher than the aug ironworks one. Albeit when my ring finally drops I will have to switch to aug ironworks one for the increase in acc as will lose acc switching from second unauged ironworks ring to dread (already have one augmented ironworks ring).

I think you'll have much more luck when the ilvl 110 accessories are released (almost certainly later this month). In general left side pieces aren't missing enough that you'd get much of a boost, and dropping STR on all of them makes any sort of gains from secondaries even more difficult to achieve.

Well supposably there wont be anymore 4 star recipes added as stated by Yoshi. So there may or may not be any ilvl 110 acc recipes, unless they intend to make them easier than the present 4 star recipes, but not long to find out XD

[Ellatrix]

I said "STR and VIT". The only place where you sacrifice both for secondaries is left side armor, i.e. Wootz melds.

My comment remains correct.

[CGMidlander]

And if you take dreadwyrm earring+true ice bracelet it weighs even higher than both.

True Ice Bracelet of Slaying + Augmented Ironworks Earrings of Slaying = 44 str, 22 acc, 29 crit, 14 det = 54.91
Augmented Ironwork bracelet and the Dreadwyrm earrings = 46 str, 22 acc, 26 det, 15 ss = 57.286

Now True Ice Bracelet+dread earrings = 44 str, 29 det, 14 crit, 15 sks = 59.83

So yes, ilvl isn't the be all and end all depending on secondaries Thats calculated with MNK stat weights Other jobs will have a slight varience in results due to sks. For t10 to 12 I have enough accuracy to use that pair, for turn 13 I have to switch to Dread bracelet for the acc, Dread Bracelet weighs slightly higher than the aug ironworks one. Albeit when my ring finally drops I will have to switch to aug ironworks one for the increase in acc as will lose acc switching from second unauged ironworks ring to dread (already have one augmented ironworks ring).

Going by your logic, why have any accuracy on equipment at all?
I think you missed the point of the comparison.

If you want to drop accuracy, there's room to play around on the left side as well. Almost every piece of IW with accuracy has a DW counterpart without it, and vice versa.