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  1. #21
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    Saevel's Avatar
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    Saevel Azarin
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    There are uses for certain gear beyond just equipping it. Whether or not that entitles you to roll Need will always be a debate. Personally regarding gear, I don't roll Need if I don't plan to equip the item, but I also don't expect others to play by that standard. In most cases I expect other people to push the Need button if it's available, regardless of any other factors.
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  2. #22
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    BobbinT's Avatar
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Masamune
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Other than needing them for GC seals, I do need them for desynthing. This is very important especially when doing 1st coil since rare mat does come from it.

    As for GC seals itself, I still have great demand from it. Aside from the current zodiac-sink, I always have great need for 1* mats crafting (coke, peacock ore, etc).
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  3. #23
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    IceSpear's Avatar
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    Ice Spear
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I roll need on items I don't need for GC Seals most of the time. I'm a spiritbonder so I like to get the GC potions to make it go faster and, because I take 5 sets of gear at once it takes about and hour to fully bound all of them.
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  4. #24
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    RhazeCain's Avatar
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    Rhaze Cain
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 60
    If you go by the idea "equal reward for equal effort", then "need" doesn't come into it. Why should one person pull in a greater portion of the item rewards than another person when both contributed equally to the encounter?
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  5. #25
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    Gorvi Velgin
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I think I'd be totally cool if someone who wasn't going to actually equip the item just rolled greed with everyone else. The whole point of the Need option is for people intending to actually use the item. If you're not using it then you don't "need" it any more than anyone else in the group.
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  6. #26
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Character
    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Honestly, it's just up to each person. When I do low level roulettes, I never need on anything that someone else may need. However, if I'm doing upper tier level 50 dungeons and healing random people, derps, tanks who pull 20+ enemies and don't use defensive skills, etc. I'm certainly going to need on the higher level healer gear to turn in for seals. After all, without seals, I couldn't pay my retainer to bring me back useless fish all the time.
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    Last edited by NorthernLadMSP; 01-08-2015 at 06:57 AM. Reason: Spelling Typo

  7. #27
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    m3eansean's Avatar
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    Kakashi Hatake
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Even if he doesn't need to wear it for an upgrade, he took the time to queue and play the class. He is entitled to "need" as much as any other player in that duty using the same class. The system is fairly straightforward and one of the more fair methods that could have been used by the dev team. I always see it as this:

    "May the best roll win"
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  8. #28
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    Kaane Moka
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    On the other side, we have the kind of player who would ninja loot on even the item that people specifically requested. Seeing as this happened to me many many times in the past, I now am living a thug life. "Being a nice guy,often than most, will put you on the losing side!!"
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  9. #29
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    2 words: seals & desynth
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  10. #30
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Masamune
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by m3eansean View Post
    Even if he doesn't need to wear it for an upgrade, he took the time to queue and play the class. He is entitled to "need" as much as any other player in that duty using the same class. The system is fairly straightforward and one of the more fair methods that could have been used by the dev team. I always see it as this:

    "May the best roll win"
    So true.

    Although, I do tries to hold on from needing any drops from lower level dungeons since I can just desynth from normal crafts. But that's only if I do see any under-leveled players in party. I will click "need" if all party members are all level 50 though.
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