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    Pterois Volitans
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    i love having neighbors, really glad it isn't instanced, i'll literally sit around with them at the local market board and chat and craft for quite some time. But seriously, any person from this point on (or even at 2.4 drop) who does not have the gil on hand and ready when new housing is available (especially on such a populated server >.>) should expect this. Anyone serious enough to save up this kinda gil already knows about the housing situation and that it needs to be jumped on asap. Please be real people, it sucks... i agree, but you need to have a little foresight if you want to play house.
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    M'kael Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pterois View Post
    Please be real people, it sucks... i agree, but you need to have a little foresight if you want to play house.
    And for the people who have gil but can't be online when the servers come up due to work or other obligations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    And for the people who have gil but can't be online when the servers come up due to work or other obligations?
    i had work that tuesday morning when i was up at 3am (for 2.4)... i logged out right in front of lavender beds entrance knowing i would make the B-line straight for a house and started saving gil two months beforehand. I would sympathize if you were LITERALLY at work but if it was just to early for you to wake up then i would just say you were not dedicated enough lol. I have 4 kids and sleep is a very precious thing to me so i don't wanna here some i shouldn't have to story... people know the state of the housing market so you should have moved asap when you had the chance.

    But i still think the housing situation is far from concluded, don't get me wrong, they still have lots of stuff to fix. BUT if you want to play a new housing market game... i occasionally see small houses open up for what ever reason (character deleted or they only bought the land but didn't build) if you keep your eyes peeled you will see one open up, just make sure you have the gil on hand at all times.
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    Last edited by Pterois; 01-06-2015 at 03:57 AM.
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    Sora Burakku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pterois View Post
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    What about those who bought the game in the last few days?

    I get that they do have bigger fish to fry but it feels like none of the issues that have arisen were ever considered when they developed the content. That's my beef, poor planning on this particular content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    What about those who bought the game in the last few days?

    I get that they do have bigger fish to fry but it feels like none of the issues that have arisen were ever considered when they developed the content. That's my beef, poor planning on this particular content.
    yeah there is no arguing that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    What about those who bought the game in the last few days?

    I get that they do have bigger fish to fry but it feels like none of the issues that have arisen were ever considered when they developed the content. That's my beef, poor planning on this particular content.
    There will always be things that veteran players have that new players will need time to acquire. What new player doesn't understand this? And if you can't get a small, save for a medium, or a large while waiting for SE to add more housing. SE will eventually you know (or at least devise some other solution).
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    Illyasviel Einzbern
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    What about those who bought the game in the last few days?
    Those people will be directed to a less populated server when they create their character.
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    Gyson Kincaid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illya View Post
    Those people will be directed to a less populated server when they create their character.
    Good in theory, but in practice it doesn't pan out that way.

    Look, I'm pretty sure we can all agree that it'd be fantastic if enough housing were available for everyone that wanted a residence (provided they could afford one). So, I'm not sure why there's any opposition when someone complains about the lack of available plots (on any server).

    Whether it's new, active players who end up sticking with FFXIV for years to come, or long-time players who spend most of their days now idle and AFK, everyone has an understandable expectation of being able to access a game feature like housing. And when the competition in the MMO gaming market is offering it, it's generally a good idea to make the process as hassle-free as possible if your product hopes to be competitive.

    Worse still, the practice of "selling the right to be present when a plot is abandoned" needs to go, and badly. Newcomers to the housing market shouldn't essentially be paying for the same plot of land twice; it's ridiculously unfair. I realize current landowners looking to upgrade have an expectation to recover the money they spent on their original plot of land (just like in the real world), but housing was designed to be a gil sink, not a security deposit that's returned when a player moves out. SE should really step in and squash this, in my opinion.
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    What about those who bought the game in the last few days?
    Then they aren't level 50, and they don't have millions to blow on a house. So completely doesn't matter. So you might then ask "what about those who bought the game a month ago and now has a 50 and some cash" and to that I say sometimes you can't expect to have what the veterans do immediately and to have some patience. You are not entitled to a house. This also assumes that somehow that new player is more entitle than I don't know, someone who had the money 5 months ago and still hasn't had a chance to buy one due to availability. So really I don't care about your hypothetical new person. It doesn't change a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
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    While I can understand this regarding FC housing, Personal housing in an MMO should not have been this way. FC housing makes sense to be communal like that, there is no reason personal housing should be done the same way. It no longer is personal and there is little to no difference between a FC owned house and Personal house except for the way it is acquired and restricted. Especially when they link things like the chocobo stables, gardening, Crafting bonuses, and possible future content like the chocobo raising/racing which is all supposed to be casual cosmetic content that is denied to the casual player base.

    This housing feature seems to go contrary to the dev teams philosophy of making the game casual friendly. Lets make the end game content accessible to everyone and "easy" (according to some) to do yet lets restrict player homes and all associated features to the hardcore, first come first serve crowd.
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