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  1. #1361
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    Harold Saxon
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Puro; Can you make a new rotation on the rotation page and calculator page? Its mainly for future theorycrafting, although i'd like to use it now on a little theory I have cooked up.

    The rotation is simply an extra fire (7 fires).
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  2. #1362
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    Stouter Taru
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Looking at the current trend with BLM MP at different levels, we are headed towards needing to add Piety to do a 4 fire rotation in the expansion:
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    Level	Piety	Fire	Thunder	Blizzard
    50	245	319	212	106
    49	238	304	202	101
    48	229	289	193	96
    47	222	274	183	91
    46	215	259	173	86
    45	208	245	163	81
    44	202	230	153	76
    43	196	215	143	71
    42	189	200	133	66
    41	183	185	123	61
    40	175	171	114	57
    39	169	162	108	54
    38	163	155	103	51
    37	156	147	98	49
    36	151	139	92	46
    35	145	131	87	43
    In the expansion, at level 60, assuming Piety keeps arcing slightly up, we can expect about an extra 90 Piety, giving us around 4400 MP. Assuming spell cost has stopped its arc and is now a straight 5 MP/level for Blizzard, we can expect roughly 4525 MP for a 4 fire rotation, requiring about 15 Piety on gear:

    ~340 Fire III under UI3
    ~940x4 Fire I under AF3
    ~115 Blizzard III under AF3
    ~310 Thunder I

    Of course that's only using current trends and spells, there will likely be alterations to MP, and new spells and skills that skewer the rotation.
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  3. #1363
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    Sariena Adeline
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    Zalera
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    Any suggestions for my next Poetics upgrade?
    I have Dreadwyrm Choker; Ironworks Earrings; Shiva Brace; Ironworks Ring and HA ring.
    For left side, I have Ironworks rod; crafted headpiece; ironworks chest; Evenstar gloves; crafted belt; HA pants; ironworks boots

    I was thinking about crafting Gloves, and maybe... I dunno. Honestly do not know lol. Maybe I'll save and use them on my WHM.

    My issue is, I won't be back into FC till 2.5, so, I'm lost.
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  4. #1364
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    Lucius Magnus
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    I'd go with the Ironworks chocker and bracelet just due to the greater stat flexibility you have.
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  5. #1365
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    I forgot to mention that I do have the Ironworks choker. I picked it up for more spell speed. Unfortunately, tests indicate it's a DPS loss currently so I keep the Dreadwyrm on.

    I'm skeptical of the wrist since I'd be losing quite a bit of Spell Speed (20)
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  6. #1366
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    What I mean is get it so depending on gear dropped from Odin/Gil/mystery/WoD you'll have the most options for mixing and matching.
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  7. #1367
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    What I mean is get it so depending on gear dropped from Odin/Gil/mystery/WoD you'll have the most options for mixing and matching.
    Huh, you're right. Totally forgot about Odin... crafted right side... that trial and WoD... LOL
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  8. #1368
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    I forgot to mention that I do have the Ironworks choker. I picked it up for more spell speed. Unfortunately, tests indicate it's a DPS loss currently so I keep the Dreadwyrm on.

    I'm skeptical of the wrist since I'd be losing quite a bit of Spell Speed (20)
    Your tests are wrong. Its only a DPS loss if, by using the Dreadwyrm choker, you can put on a different damage piece elsewhere - or if you don't have the accuracy for the required content.
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  9. #1369
    Player Skeith-Adeline's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    Your tests are wrong. Its only a DPS loss if, by using the Dreadwyrm choker, you can put on a different damage piece elsewhere - or if you don't have the accuracy for the required content.
    So, keeping the Dreadwyrm on is a DPS loss? I can ask for more and maybe ask him for crit rates as well. May have gotten lucky. (2 13 minute checks)
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  10. #1370
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    Dextro Couteau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    So, keeping the Dreadwyrm on is a DPS loss? I can ask for more and maybe ask him for crit rates as well. May have gotten lucky. (2 13 minute checks)
    I'm going by what you're wearing on lodestone; keeping it on leaves you with 507 Accuracy, which puts you just barely above the T12 requirement.
    Outside of that, you're more likely to see a DPS increase with the ironworks choker on.
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