Miqo'te Male/Female Relations and Views on Marriage

[treuhavik]

I feel like just maybe this is the opinion of somebody who has never been used for sex before.

Maybe, but perhaps I have been and was never the wiser or maybe I saw through it and didn't care. Everyone's experiences and feelings on those experiences differ.

If it wasn't obvious, that entire post was over-exaggerated, facetious and sarcastic. If it can't be taken as such, I'll rework or delete the post to avoid the oncoming PC debate.


Otherwise, to continue the discussion; My Keeper prefers traveling the world, learning, experiencing new things and getting to know new women along the way. It may be that his interests happen to align with the females of his race or that he chose this life because of the innate instability within his tribe, maybe a little of both. Either way, he's happy with himself and the life he leads, and that's all that matters.

[FJerome]

If the delivery quest did anything, it was to confirm our fears that males are second-class citizens (sorry RPers, time to modify those characters). Most probably become "wanderers" simply because they have limited options for stability in life. They are only needed for sex, and have no other value. Even the ones that do settle down are probably under full control of the women and once their usefulness has ended they are sent on their merry way.

I think her view of Keeper males may have also been influenced by her being a Gridanian as well as a Keeper. Among Keepers living outside Gridania I'd expect males have an important role as messengers, merchants, news-carriers, diplomats, general go-betweens, etc., basically any function that can be usefully filled by someone who'll always be moving from tribe to tribe. In Gridania that's all rolled-up into general city infrastructure so there's jack-all for traditionally-minded male Keepers to do.

[Ashkendor]

Seeker adventures maintain tribal links. Seeker tias wish to become wise & strong enough to challenge nunhs or form their own tribe. Dominant seeker females test themselves to see if they are worthy of being alpha, keeping an eye out for unattached nunhs and promising tias. Beta seeker females are no less fierce, nor lesser hunters. They simply lack the desire to lead.

I like this. It explains so well why my tiny little lady would don heavy armor and take point, throwing herself into harm's way time and time again despite being, to put it mildly, physically unimposing (she's the minimum height). In fact, perhaps even more so because of that. She has something to prove, be it to herself or her tribe. It's a lot easier to imagine the motivation for male Seekers to wander, but this is a great way to see it for females. ^^

[myahele]

I think once a male seeker comes of age they are "ecouraged" to move out and explore the world. It seems like females don't really like the extended stay of a visiting male.

By forcing them out they have to be self reliant and provide for themselves. In order to be welcomed into the family territory the males must bring them something they hunted and killed. Thus proving that they were strong enough to live on their own and I'm sure attracting mates as well.

But I do agree, that a meek/weak seeker male will be looked down upon by both sexes and if they can't survive in the wilds then that's one way to weedout the weak.

[Neyasa]

I never read this before about them? Mithra is FF11 were like this, the males you never seen and women only playable. The males were only for sleeping with and nothing else. I doubt they would be playable if they were the same as the FF11 males.

[Sapphic]

But due to their increased intermingling with other races due to their forced exiles from the Garlean invasions aren't some of them naturally going to change in their beliefs and lifestyle due to intergration? Like the moon cats in the Shroud do not intermingle and tus keep to "traditional ways" same with cats in south Than. But their are those who co-exist in the cities which are open to "contamination" for want of a better term of their traditional lifestyle,

So attitudes can change from the more traditional view in regards to relationships. Dueto the above reasoning.

[Kotemon]

Given everything, the lore suggests their society is reflective to that of lions. One Alpha male and a whole lot of females that do all the work. That explains why so many males are loners or require several devoted females to start a new group. Unfortunately we all have the physical appearance to that of domestic cats instead.

[ShionRasenka]

Given everything, the lore suggests their society is reflective to that of lions. One Alpha male and a whole lot of females that do all the work. That explains why so many males are loners or require several devoted females to start a new group. Unfortunately we all have the physical appearance to that of domestic cats instead.

You just hit the nail on the head, Kotemon. I was thinking about Sun Seeker tribe structure one night while trying to get to sleep, and I suddenly realized Seeker miqo'te tribes are just like lion prides. One or two alpha males, with a ton of females who do the work. I find that fascinating, and it gives me something to work on with my miqo'te rp-wise.

[myahele]

From what's revealed sofar

Seekers resemble the social structure of Lions

Keepers resemble the social structure of Elephants

[Edellis]

It seems like despite the way traditional Miqo'te's behave with mates, the majority of them in Eorzea have abandoned that idea and follow the culture of the city they're in. They may have been born of it, but don't necessarily follow it. Individual little tribes seem to follow that trend, but none of the Miqo'te NPCs in any of the grand states seem to behave that way.

Forgotten Springs is full of female hunters and one Miqo'te male, and the Couerlclaw in Gridania are all exclusively female. Can't think of many others but they seem like the minority.