Stop Hand-Holding me!

[solracht]

It might already be too late to make the world have a sense of life because of the map markers during quests. They essentially make every line of dialogue useless to read.

I hope you didn't play FFXI, because If you ever looked up what to do in a quest on the wiki, if you ever looked up where to flag a quest on the wiki, or ever used a pair of coordinates from the wiki to complete anything in FFXI, complaining about this would make you a hypocrite.

How is following the ingame journal different than following the out-of-game walkthrough?

Hint: you have the option to ignore both, and ignoring either you'll be at a disadvantage compared to the people who don't. What has changed, exactly?

[Lahru_Hukurou]

I hope you didn't play FFXI, because If you ever looked up what to do in a quest on the wiki, if you ever looked up where to flag a quest on the wiki, or ever used a pair of coordinates from the wiki to complete anything in FFXI, complaining about this would make you a hypocrite.

Lol, so true ^__^

[Ghalith]

I don't think I'd mind the "just look at the map" so much if I felt like the game was actually trying to kick my ass... it feels like it wants to me to succeed.

But I would like some more difficult quests where the quest giver doesn't know the EXACT coordinates of where I need to go... Something between XIV and XI... some of the quests in the latter were so directionless that you essentially had to go to the wiki.

[AlexiaKidd]

I hope you didn't play FFXI, because If you ever looked up what to do in a quest on the wiki, if you ever looked up where to flag a quest on the wiki, or ever used a pair of coordinates from the wiki to complete anything in FFXI, complaining about this would make you a hypocrite.

How is following the ingame journal different than following the out-of-game walkthrough?

Hint: you have the option to ignore both, and ignoring either you'll be at a disadvantage compared to the people who don't. What has changed, exactly?

Exactly the quests in FFXI were very vague about what you had to do, if it wasn't for wiki I would never have been able to do half of them thats for sure. Sometime I would read the quest up on wiki and think, how the hell did someone figure this out from the info you are given in the game.

[Rowyne]

Exactly the quests in FFXI were very vague about what you had to do, if it wasn't for wiki I would never have been able to do half of them thats for sure. Sometime I would read the quest up on wiki and think, how the hell did someone figure this out from the info you are given in the game.

So true! You could talk to someone who would complain that they didn't like their hair, if only they could find their favorite hairbrush. So, you'd think your quest objective is to look around for a hairbrush... turns out you really need to go halfway across the world to find an old friend who used to cut their hair.

Silly example, but not that far off the mark.

I read all my quests, quite thoroughly, and that still wasn't enough to figure them out. You couldn't do most of them without looking them up online.

OP: Please, for the love of the Twelve, stop trying to ruin it for the rest of us who don't want to spend hours and going to third party sources to figure out how to play this game.

[Kenshi]

Abriael pull the cock out of your ass. Absolutely nobody who plays any game at all likes to have to go to wikipedia to figure out how to do a quest. Here is a perfect example, FFXI a game we all love dearly had the worst quest system ever. You could read the entire dialogue for a quest and still have absolutely no idea where you were supposed to go. That is why majority of people who played that game use ffxiclopedia. Hell they didn't even have any markes on your screen or map to mark the guy you needed to talk to, how stupid is that? I personally do not like having to spend a half hour or longer roaming a town to find some douchebag NPC I need to talk to. Thats why FFXIV is adding markes to the game, It's just plain old common sense.