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  1. #51
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    Elkya95's Avatar
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    Alexis Wolf
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    Louisoix
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    But it will end up being obsolete in future updates anyhow, Relics never remain bis and heck for some classes they are not
    At some point they'll be the same ilvl as dreadwyrm if it follows the same pattern as novus->nexus, and so it's better for people who's dreadwyrm weapon doesn't have the best stats. Also considering how few people have t13 down and not all magitek weapons have good stats at all (looking at smn and the 51 skill speed bards get) the relic is a lot better. And there's rng, if I remember right Ooshima had terrible t9 luck with the bow, I know people with server 3rd who never saw a sch book, and there again relic is great.
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  2. #52
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    But it will end up being obsolete in future updates anyhow, Relics never remain bis and heck for some classes they are not
    Every single thing becomes obsolete in future. If you are going to keep caring about the future, might as well forget it. It is as good as for example, your PC is on the 4th gen intel chip and you are eyeing the 5th gen chip but not enough $, by the time you have the $ they announced the 6th gen chip and you want to wait it out. It is endless. What is important is NOW. Having it means you have more open options.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elkya95 View Post
    At some point they'll be the same ilvl as dreadwyrm if it follows the same pattern as novus->nexus, and so it's better for people who's dreadwyrm weapon doesn't have the best stats. Also considering how few people have t13 down and not all magitek weapons have good stats at all (looking at smn and the 51 skill speed bards get) the relic is a lot better. And there's rng, if I remember right Ooshima had terrible t9 luck with the bow, I know people with server 3rd who never saw a sch book, and there again relic is great.
    RNG for me:

    BCoB:
    Only 1 loot per month (I think I only have 4 pieces minus the bow)
    Allagan Composite Bow received 3 days before Patch 2.2

    SCoB:
    Received belt on week 1 and then not seeing loots until at least 1.5months later
    10 weeks of T8 before seeing one piece of loot and another 2-3 weeks later of T8 before getting the pants (it was double drop with the choker.the ONLY time ever I got a double drop but I think because of this, I used up all my luck and never got anything from T9 within its validity period lol).
    Still NO High Allagan Composite Bow to date
    The chest piece only dropped for me like after some 10+ of T9 farms in 2.4 lol.

    FCoB:
    So-So luck, haven't been receiving loots until recently (3 pieces in this week + last week), total of 5 pieces only...
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    Last edited by Ooshima; 12-31-2014 at 11:45 AM.

  3. #53
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    Sessurea's Avatar
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 60
    I used to think relics a waste of time but with the only weapon being better than 125 yoichi is the dreadwyrm, and ofc dreadwyrm bow = 135 fully upgraded relic, lets just say my ha bow is starting to feel really bad..... Would be nice also to remove the stress of rng by making the dreadwyrm obsolete ( by having a relic bow with identical stats@2.51 ) ^^
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    Last edited by Sessurea; 12-31-2014 at 10:50 PM.

  4. #54
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    It won't have identical stats. The relic will have more det.
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  5. #55
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    Rinchan Nau
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    Yea. The relic will probably do roughly 2 more DPS at i135 on average.

    Still need the Dread body, gloves, and bracelet.. But BRD damage is pretty nice on t13. 461 last night with no DRG. Not too shabby. The secondaries are so much better on the Dreadwyrm bow that it feels like a much larger than 1 WD difference compared to the i130
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    Last edited by RinchanNau; 01-01-2015 at 03:48 AM.

  6. #56
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RinchanNau View Post
    Yea. The relic will probably do roughly 2 more DPS at i135 on average.

    Still need the Dread body, gloves, and bracelet.. But BRD damage is pretty nice on t13. 461 last night with no DRG. Not too shabby. The secondaries are so much better on the Dreadwyrm bow that it feels like a much larger than 1 WD difference compared to the i130
    Cos Magitek is shit lol.
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  7. #57
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 60
    suddenly occurred to me bards should have a chat thread ( similar to dragoon reborn and monk temple threads? )....I get so little bard talk in-game xc
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  8. #58
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RinchanNau View Post
    Dread body, gloves, and bracelet..
    Do bards really need to wear those dread gloves? xc Not too familiar with acc problems w/o wearing bow with accuracy...

    Edit: nvm I get it now, you want dread body and not 110 crafted so u need the acc from gloves....
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  9. #59
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    Empty Handed
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    Ragnarok
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    Leatherworker Lv 60
    I will have to respec my Yoichi Bow. I have to remove accuracy from it and replace it with det/crit

    Sigh. I went cheap with my novus back then.
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  10. #60
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Empty-handed View Post
    I will have to respec my Yoichi Bow. I have to remove accuracy from it and replace it with det/crit

    Sigh. I went cheap with my novus back then.
    Relic is really a do it good or forget it thing :X
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