New Race Announced! The Au Ra

[Renik]

Gonna call bull on the bolded.
For people asking for more scales you wouldn't actually have to change the MODEL or animations at all, you could just make it a texture and keep the plate scales they have now ... simple as as that. Would be like this, you don't have to add MUCh to the model they have now to get a more scaly, beast like look to the skin. That's something they may have planed for now or may add in if enough players make a fuss about it this early on in the reveal.

As for not being able to please everyone with one race, I disagree with the notion that that's grounds to not TRY to please more people. I think that the humans are a great example of this. You have two tribes of humans that look fairly different and cover the range of people who want bigger, bad ass women and men and those who want cute or smaller and such people. They could have tried the same here, make one tribe what they are now and the other with bigger, bad ass women and more beastly options for both tribes.

And if they truly DO have a ton of options for the new race that covers things that some people want already then that's great ... but we haven't seen this yet so we can't just assume that.

If you want them to make females bigger, it would require a full rework, model, textures , gear and animations, and of course testing.

About the scaled skin done with textures, with the information we have this is simply not possible for now,the scales of the Au Ra are too big in comparison with their body, because they are partial, you can't use these to cover the whole body not to talk about a complex surface like the face, and doing them as pure texture is something Yoshi wouldn't accept, because it would look horrible.

It's too late to change them, they could have made them more different between clans, like hyurs, but they haven't. you might be able to make a fierce and more scaled character, i don't know.

But as i said, some people like it, others don't, give feedback for he next one.

[reivaxe]

And yet people still play as Roegadyn, Galka, Pandas and Charr. While some people may see them as ugly (or not like them at all for one reason or another), others will find them to look incredibly adorable (I myself find Galka to be incredibly cute). If SE only appeal to the audience who only want cute/cool anime stuff, then this game is only going to have Hyurs (and Elezen) with extra bits here and there as playable races.

And the game will keep push away people who enjoy playing as fantasy races as we have already seen examples of in this thread.


I get WHY we're getting this race ... I mean, it's clear that they want to get people to buy the character change magic with RL money so they made horned Kitty girls and tall horned bad ass human dudes to appeal to the people who want the hot FOTM cute thing and like their kitty people. What I don't get is why they're not working any other angles. Like the idea of making options for cat people to have full fur bodies with coat patterns and cat snouts. I'm POSITIVE that a good amount of kitty players would love to be able to make them look more like cat people/ furries and at the very least you would be offering something to potential NEW players who do like that.

As it stands you really can't tell what anyone would pick race-wise given that there's no REAL options right now, you can only assume that Kitty People might like horned girls because they work off the same concept of adding animal bits to cute girls.

[Strika23]

And the game will keep push away people who enjoy playing as fantasy races as we have already seen examples of in this thread.

As it stands you really can't tell what anyone would pick race-wise given that there's no REAL options right now, you can only assume that Kitty People might like horned girls because they work off the same concept of adding animal bits to cute girls.

I agree completely. How do they know what people will make when there is very little variety at the moment which in turn force people into the same categories?

[Zumi]

Well I liked the miqote and and like the new race. I did like the whole cute looking girls with animal traits. They are different in that they have horns and scaley tails. Would use one of my fantasias to try the new race out.

[reivaxe]

If you want them to make females bigger, it would require a full rework, model, textures , gear and animations, and of course testing.

Maybe you're misreading what I said.

"For people asking for more scales you wouldn't actually have to change the MODEL or animations at all, you could just make it a texture and keep the plate scales they have now ... simple as as that. Would be like this, you don't have to add MUCh to the model they have now to get a more scaly, beast like look to the skin. That's something they may have planed for now or may add in if enough players make a fuss about it this early on in the reveal."


That's just for people asking for more scales and more beast like skin. There's a thread on this forum that was made by someone who wanted people to speak out to SE about making an option for more scaly skin/ beast like features to the race. That would all be in the textures/ some model tweaks maybe. Would not effect animation or gear to give the more plated scales on some parts along with scaly skin textures.

The thing about making the women bigger was me giving an example of how they COULD'VE TRIED TO please more people with this race to counter the notion that they simply can't and shouldn't try. I never requested that they simply make the girls look like FemRoes at this point, just that I don't like how they turned out compared to the dudes now that we see them both side to side.

About the scaled skin done with textures, with the information we have this is simply not possible for now,the scales of the Au Ra are too big in comparison with their body, because they are partial, you can't use these to cover the whole body not to talk about a complex surface like the face, and doing them as pure texture is something Yoshi wouldn't accept, because it would look horrible.

Bolded it non-sense. It's common practice to have skin textures take the place of making something have the appearance of w/e texture through polygons. You can see it with the Drakin in Wildstar for example (notice how his skin looks scaly even in this super cartoony style because of the texture with only a few large plates that would effect the model. They also did the smart thing and made their under belly area and parts pf the face lighter as to make them look more like reptile skinned beings)

My character has a scar on her face ... you can see this as a scar because they're good enough at textures to make a scar look like a scar on the skin. I'm more than positive they can make scaly skin textures not look bad seeing as it's not hard to find examples of that in this game as is.

It's too late to change them, they could have made them more different between clans, like hyurs, but they haven't. you might be able to make a fierce and more scaled character, i don't know.

But as i said, some people like it, others don't, give feedback for he next one.

We are giving feed back right now lol

[Amiantos]

reivaxe they only showed a little bit and they really emphasized there were to be a lot of options for character creation. Just because what we saw in the initial pv doesn't mean that's all the scales you can do. There could be options for more or even less if you want. But I know also this can be said the the other way and could be a possibility that's all we can do. Personally I think everyone needs to take back a notch or two until we get a bit more info which I have a feeling will be around 2.5 when Yugiri reveals herself.

[Renik]

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If all you want is texture and just as an option, it is possible, but don't say it will be easy, they have to make them look good, they have to give them lightning effects and depth, the more effects you leave to the texture itself, the more time it takes, but these are usually made by a single person, it's up to SE.

[Edeline]

reivaxe they only showed a little bit and they really emphasized there were to be a lot of options for character creation. Just because what we saw in the initial pv doesn't mean that's all the scales you can do. There could be options for more or even less if you want. But I know also this can be said the the other way and could be a possibility that's all we can do. Personally I think everyone needs to take back a notch or two until we get a bit more info which I have a feeling will be around 2.5 when Yugiri reveals herself.

Basically this, and all we can do is wait for character creation window to see what's available. We won't know til then what we can do with Au Ras. So simply bashing at SE for not giving YOU what you want, it's pointless when we don't even know how the customization goes (for the scaled skin part for example).

[Kyrausagi]

Twelve forgive me.

I.
LOVE.
THE.
AU RA.

Yeah me to I dont get why people are complaining so much. I do 3D modeling myself and its a pain in the ass. You have to make sure the bones are in the right position you have to make sure the joints are correct and physics are perfect, otherwise everything falls apart.
They're nice and flow with the story considering they're decedents from Shiva.

[Kyrausagi]

Yes you are correct.
3D modeling and animation is no cake walk. You have to be precise.