Please no more "grind" relic quests before the expansion

[Deathscythe343]

Anybody who has done an epic weapon in Everquest 1 can tell you the relic quest line is easy.

It took me less time to get my epic weapon in EQ than it did for me to complete the atma portion of the animus upgrade.

[Donarudo]

It took me less time to get my epic weapon in EQ than it did for me to complete the atma portion of the animus upgrade.

Then my question to you would be when did you complete it. I did my Epic quest in EQ when it was the new shiny thing to do at level 50ish or 55. (current level in eq is 105) It wasn't a quest that could be completed quicker then the Relic quest. Especially considering there was Epic 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, and 2.5. So my guess would be that you completed it sometime at a higher level? Some of the grinds took several months just to get one drop. Example Cleric 1.0 and Paladin 1.0. Not to mention they had requirements (at the time) which required a raid force of 72 people to help you (this was before they downsized raids to 54 people). If you were in a guild that raided that meant you had to wait your turn. So when quoting me, please tell the whole story, because as I stated before. Anybody who has done the Epic quest for weapons in Everquest can tell you that the relic quest line is easy. I will leave you with this last note, if you completed the Epic quest line quicker then the relic questline while it was in its prime then you would have been world first. If that were the case then cool for you. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=763 (just to give you an idea of (some) of the things you had to do to get this weapon.

As a side note - completing the Epic 1.0 in its prime meant you were already unlocking key zones in Planes of Power, which meant if you had not unlocked these zones you were not doing your Epic until those key progression zones were unlocked. Yes they gated content back then too. Anybody who was trying to get into the Plane of Time during that progression iteration would more then likely be able to tell you how long it took their guilds to clear all the demi gods and Time itself. This extra note I added just to give an idea of why it took many of us a long time to complete our Epics.

Plane of Power progression - had to do stuff like this before you could even get your Epic http://tancidtherogue.com/pop.html

[Deculture]

It took me less time to get my epic weapon in EQ than it did for me to complete the atma portion of the animus upgrade.

Relic to Zodiac took me ~3 weeks.

EQ 1.0 epic took me a year+ and I was in the top guild on the server who had sole access to PoF for months before another guild cleared Zek for access.

FFXI SAM relic took me almost a year and that was with my LS feeding me bills.

I guess 14's relic grind is considered hard by modern day gamers, but the old dogs are just looking at it and shrugging.

[Nestama]

I guess 14's relic grind is considered hard by modern day gamers, but the old dogs are just looking at it and shrugging.

Not hard, just really boring because it doesn't introduce anything new (and often requires you to make you spam certain content until I grow to hate it) :/

[Deculture]

Not hard, just really boring because it doesn't introduce anything new (and often requires you to make you spam certain content until I grow to hate it) :/

True enough, I do think that they're just using the relic questline to inject older content with a constant stream of players in an effort to reduce queue times. Hopefully in Heavensward they push out actual content for the new relics rather than rehashing old content over and over again.