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    Revy66's Avatar
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    Noire Fleuret
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    Disappointment With Machinist?

    It may be too early too speculate, however, based solely upon the brief clip from fanfest? After a long while of waiting from 2.0 beta and an even longer wait for those promised a gun class in 1.0, It's safe to say that at least a small amount of disappointment is in order.
    Maybe I was the only one who'd gotten excited when they saw Merlwyb dual wielding guns for the Leviathan arc, maybe I was the only one who associated a more pirate styled class with a city built by pirates for pirates with gunpowder.
    Again, it is very early to be completely downtrodden, though, with the Machinist only firing 1 gun and seemingly employing a potential pet mechanic into the mix? After all this waiting and staring at the 2 crossed gun sign in the marauder guild I can't be the only one who feels a little bit let down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revy66 View Post
    It may be too early too speculate, however, based solely upon the brief clip from fanfest? After a long while of waiting from 2.0 beta and an even longer wait for those promised a gun class in 1.0, It's safe to say that at least a small amount of disappointment is in order.
    Maybe I was the only one who'd gotten excited when they saw Merlwyb dual wielding guns for the Leviathan arc, maybe I was the only one who associated a more pirate styled class with a city built by pirates for pirates with gunpowder.
    Again, it is very early to be completely downtrodden, though, with the Machinist only firing 1 gun and seemingly employing a potential pet mechanic into the mix? After all this waiting and staring at the 2 crossed gun sign in the marauder guild I can't be the only one who feels a little bit let down.
    How can you be disappointed when the class hasn't been even made available for everyone..?
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    J'esshica Clahne
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    Easy. They went Cid route with the gun user and not the Admiral. At least, that's the gist of it from the OP.

    I would've loved a dual wielder myself, though I'll save judgement on the pet. If they have customization on the pet or make it look REALLY GREAT, it won't be a let down.
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    Player Skeith-Adeline's Avatar
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    Sariena Adeline
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    From the outside and what we've learned so far, it seems boring lol. Outside of a disappointing/plain job, that's all I can muster.
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    @OP
    We knew sinc a long while ago that musketeer wouldn't come. It's not SE's fault if people chose to stick to the idea that it would come nevertheless and are now disappointed. You created your own disappointment.

    On the bright side : you got your gunner dps, and I didn't get my healing gunner (aka chemist).

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    From the outside and what we've learned so far, it seems boring lol. Outside of a disappointing/plain job, that's all I can muster.
    That's being ignorant. We know nothing of the new jobs apart :

    => MCN : uses guns and turrets
    => DRK : uses a big sword and magic to enhance it
    => AST : uses tarot cards and a globe.


    If that makes MCN boring to you compared to the others, you're playing your classes for an odd reason ^^
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    Meier Michaelis
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    @OP
    We knew sinc a long while ago that musketeer wouldn't come. It's not SE's fault if people chose to stick to the idea that it would come nevertheless and are now disappointed. You created your own disappointment.
    Nah, they told us MSK is coming, and dual guns was a 'maybe', but all throughout 1.0 we were told over and over again it is coming.

    Proof: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post531716

    Either way I don't care too much. Yeah, sucks its not the MSK we thought it was..but this new job might be fun, never know. Personally, I want a pure DD ranged job, like bow and arrow type that is really strong ^^ Anyway, just wanted to clear it up that we were told and assured time and time again that we would get the MSK lol.
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    Magnus Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meier View Post
    Personally, I want a pure DD ranged job, like bow and arrow type that is really strong ^^
    Never gonna happen. DPS in this game have quirks because that is how they keep them balanced. If one DPS was just 'All Super Damage' and nothing else, their damage would have to be very high to compensate. This, in turn, would make it so why would anyone want the other DPS? Just burn down as fast as possible with the Ultra DPS, all other classes not required (cept maybe a Bard).

    Bad design. Every DPS in the game has a weakness. Monks and Dragoons used to have lots of positional requirements, Bard's had their songs lowering their DPS, but still providing a massive group benefit when used correctly. Black Mages have mobility problems and summoners have very little 'Burst' Damage.

    What 'weakness' would this 'Pure DPS' build have? No support? That's not something a DPS has to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meier View Post
    snip
    to be fair, this is 1.0 info and I wasn't there back then so I wouldn't know

    As far as I remember (2.0 beta), MSK was considered as a relic of the past and the sign was in Limsa only because it was part of the city and they didn't want to remove it. People kept asking, and devs kept saying that the gun class wouldn't be MSK.

    as for the pure DD part, I don't know. MCN has apparently been advertised as a dps/support to balance the "always needed" side of the bard. As I don't speak japanese, this is just "I've heard that..." but I've heard it a lot ^^
    Though I agree that a pure ranged physical dps would be something interesting.
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    Player Skeith-Adeline's Avatar
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    Excuse me? How is it being ignorant? I specifically said "From the outside and what we've learned so far" and I do believe what you listed counts as "what we've learned". My definition of what boring is doesn't have to align with yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    Excuse me? How is it being ignorant? I specifically said "From the outside and what we've learned so far" and I do believe what you listed counts as "what we've learned". My definition of what boring is doesn't have to align with yours.
    that's not meant as an insult. I was thinking it the way "making assumptions about nothing" (English isn't my language, so I might have some troubles finding the right words).

    But well, if wielding guns and turrets is enough to be boring for you, there's nothing wrong about it, just a bit odd
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