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  1. #251
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    The Final Fantasy Tactics Summoner was AoE nuke with friendly fire and Pets provide AoE nukes, Crowd Control, Support, Tanking and Heals. That's a good solution for Summoner since Black Mage is sustained dps already.
    I don't know what FFT has to do with the topic. I mean, it's probably my favorite FF, but it has no bearing on FFXIV. I'm not really sure what the rest of your post is supposed to be saying.
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  2. #252
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I hope they respond soon. I hate that I have spent so much time working on my summoner relic and so much poetry gearing up summoner but will probably have to switch to something else. At least the gear isn't too bad because I can run as blm instead, but summoner really is in a position where it needs to be looked at and fixed.
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  3. #253
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    Mature's Avatar
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Just bumping this and agreeing with it. Smn mana needs sorting. I had to switch to Monk for final coil. Smn mana right now is not viable. Hope SE looks into it. A 400mp would be ideal.
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  4. #254
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    Roris's Avatar
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    Rori Uguu
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 80
    It's funny because Warlocks are facing similar issues in WoW and ACN/SMN were pretty much poorly retrofitted into ARR's version of Warlock, seeing how this game loves taking a lot from it. Well not funny for people maining Summoner of course, they could really use some buffs and a fix to their MP issues, hopefully before 3.0 and also hoping Heavensward will revamp it properly.
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  5. #255
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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Just bumping this and agreeing with it. Smn mana needs sorting. I had to switch to Monk for final coil. Smn mana right now is not viable. Hope SE looks into it. A 400mp would be ideal.
    Curious to hear if any other SMNs have swapped mains. A guy in one of our server's first T13-clearing groups swapped to NIN partway through the raidcycle. I haven't YET, but BRD is looking pretty tempting right now since our group doesn't currently have one.
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  6. #256
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    Lavieh's Avatar
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    Sargatanas
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Curious to hear if any other SMNs have swapped mains. A guy in one of our server's first T13-clearing groups swapped to NIN partway through the raidcycle. I haven't YET, but BRD is looking pretty tempting right now since our group doesn't currently have one.
    I swapped out of spite once I saw the gear that was datamined in 2.4.... That and I wanted to give ninja a shot.
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  7. #257
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    OlyverW's Avatar
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    Oly'ver White
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Curious to hear if any other SMNs have swapped mains. A guy in one of our server's first T13-clearing groups swapped to NIN partway through the raidcycle. I haven't YET, but BRD is looking pretty tempting right now since our group doesn't currently have one.
    I have started working on my BLM and almost to lvl 40 with it. It is sad cause I do like the SMN but I feel currently I would be better use to a party with another job atm :/
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  8. #258
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    WoW never was able to fix the Warlock since Cataclysm and the solution was to let them die off. Arcanist/Summoner is in danger of dying off right no and like Blizzard SE has no choice but either overhaul the Summoner or let them die off.
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  9. #259
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    Lavieh's Avatar
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    Sargatanas
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    WoW never was able to fix the Warlock since Cataclysm and the solution was to let them die off. Arcanist/Summoner is in danger of dying off right no and like Blizzard SE has no choice but either overhaul the Summoner or let them die off.

    I see no reason why an "overhaul" is needed. This isn't the Apocalypse of SMN. Don't get me wrong, they aren't a dead class they are just weaker in comparison to others.
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  10. #260
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
    World
    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Anyone serious about endgame raiding will switch, though, whether they decide themselves or are asked to by their raid leaders. Why would you take a summoner when pretty much every other DPS will be better? And especially why smn over blm when blm has the advantage, and they share gear so if you also have blm at 50 it's very easy to go with blm instead. This is the same issue that dragoons were having and they got buffed so they wouldn't be excluded from endgame in favor of monk and ninjas. Now it's summoner in that position.
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