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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by XNihili View Post
    It should be the seller prerogative to choose, not the buyer.
    If there is a market for smaller stacks, smaller stacks will appear.
    I used to make money this way in Alchemy.
    That's the thing. The seller currently can't choose to sell 99 Moko Grass individually, he will have to list 1 Moko Grass 99 times. It would be nice if there was an option, when we put Moko Grass on sale, to select a check box "sell as bundle only". Which when not checked, allows buyers to pick their quantity.
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  2. #12
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    as someone who sell in large or small quantities depending on the situation, i can say that this would make the prices fall, and if there's not profit no one will craft unless it is for self use.

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    when i see something in the marked being sold for 1000gil in large quantities, i will sell it in small quantities for 1700gil, but if the buyer could choose the quantity i would be forced to undercut the other seller, then he would undercut me, and the undercut wars would be far worse than they are right now, i know this is unfair for the buyer, but this is the only way we have to earn gil in this limited market.
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    Last edited by Renik; 12-25-2014 at 12:27 AM.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    ....It's all pretty much comes down to QoL....
    I'm sorry, but I disagree. The change you suggest would have greater implications than simply quality of life issues. You are suggesting a change that would directly influence the selling habits of people who frequently use the market board as a means of earning gil.

    Give you an example. When I need shards (no I don't always farm them) sometimes I turn to the market board. I go to the MB and see that random rmt xyz is selling 10 stacks of 1000 shards :/ I then buy a stack, break it up into smaller stacks and resell them at a higher individual price, but a lower stack price.....they sell like hot cakes most of the time. I always make my money back and have some free shards. Your suggestion would hinder my ability to do this.

    I'm not saying the market board is perfect, but it does reward people who are diligent because of the lack of restrictions. It's pretty restriction free as far as mmo market boards go, and I like that. My rewards are usually based on the amount of time I put into it.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuyaHikari View Post
    Or it would be like, you know... Allowing people to buy buns which only had 5 inside as opposed to forcing them to pay for more (i.e. 12) that they wouldn't want. This applies to the real world as well, imo. I hate being forced to buy a bigger box of something and pay more just because they don't have a lower quantity in stock.
    No, it really is like allowing you to tear open the package and only buy part of the contents. If I list an entire stack, it's because I want to sell an entire stack. On the rare occasions I do list an entire stack, I list them at a lower price to encourage someone that might actually be able to use that entire stack to purchase it. When I list smaller quantities, I typically mark up. You get the choice between a larger package at a cheaper per-unit price, or a smaller package at a higher per-unit price. I personally don't want for people to be able to cherry-pick my stacks and just take 1-5 of them at a time. If I want to sell 5 at a time, I'll list them that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    I don't see how that makes a difference. It's all pretty much comes down to QoL.
    It's more than QoL. It would have an enormous impact on how the market works.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 12-25-2014 at 12:27 AM.

  5. #15
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    I think people should stop complaining. If you want 1 of a particular item you should just go out gather/craft it yourself. It really isn't that difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuolema View Post
    I think people should stop complaining. If you want 1 of a particular item you should just go out gather/craft it yourself. It really isn't that difficult.
    Sure, then the sellers wonder why no one is buying their stacks. In that case, why can't the seller sell singles and stacks side by side? It's really not that difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Sure, then the sellers wonder why no one is buying their stacks. In that case, why can't the seller sell singles and stacks side by side? It's really not that difficult.
    Most people will always be lazy and buy from the market board so the sellers will always make money. Why should the sellers sell individuals and stacks? It's the sellers choice on how they want to sell their items. It's up to the buyer to either decide to purchase or gather or craft it themselves. If I don't like the price of an item then I will make or gather it myself.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuolema View Post
    Most people will always be lazy and buy from the market board so the sellers will always make money. Why should the sellers sell individuals and stacks? It's the sellers choice on how they want to sell their items. It's up to the buyer to either decide to purchase or gather or craft it themselves. If I don't like the price of an item then I will make or gather it myself.
    One also has the option to buy a stack and then resell what they don't want. Personally I don't have a problem with allowing for split stack selling if the seller has the option to choose it when putting something up on the marketboard.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    You keep saying the buyer "can just craft it themselves", but what the buyer is hearing is "Oh great, I'll have to start leveling a crafting class and spend money on new gear just to make one single item that I wanted". If you plan to hook as many customers as possible, you need to give them more options. A few people I know sell products in full stacks and smaller stacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    One also has the option to buy a stack and then resell what they don't want. Personally I don't have a problem with allowing for split stack selling if the seller has the option to choose it when putting something up on the marketboard.
    That is one benefit of buying the stack but the other benefit is actually using the rest of the stack. On occasion I buy complete stacks on the sole intention of actually using them. I don't know too many crafters that will allow a person to buy 1 item from a stack of 99. It would be a silly option to implement because it would hurt the sellers profits as most people sell large stacks cheaper than individuals. The only way to get around that would be to set a few different prices such as individual, stack of ten, stack of 20 and so on till you get to price out a full stack. Unfortunately that would be confusing and a pain to the sellers.
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