[Theory] ACN removed, SMN remade

[RazeLandale]

Though classes did seem kinda a unnecessary 1.0 throwback I kinda liked how the potential was there for multiple 'specs' like smn and sch. And while I don't think they're going to remove classes it doesn't look like we'll be going in that direction which is a bit disappointing.

[Rhas]

Though classes did seem kinda a unnecessary 1.0 throwback I kinda liked how the potential was there for multiple 'specs' like smn and sch. And while I don't think they're going to remove classes it doesn't look like we'll be going in that direction which is a bit disappointing.

Disappointing? Really? Can you imagine patch day where you already had previous jobs to 50 and now suddenly have nothing to do because.. well your shiny new class is already 50/60/80/99/whatever.

The current system is what is broken, not the direction they are heading Longevity of the expansion would at best be a week. Just like about every other patch currently released.

[Rhas]

You keep hearing it because Summoner is far from being a Final Fantasy Summoner. It is a WoW Warlock. It needs to be reworked to become an actual pet class. Scholar being a healer/dot class is much more appealing than Summoner being a dot/pet class. At least that is the impression I get from most people who I've talked to/read posts from.

Actually because its green mage with pets, not an actual summoner. Dot's... really....

[Ryans]

Actually because its green mage with pets, not an actual summoner. Dot's... really....

That is basically what I said? I guess if you don't know how Warlock operates in WoW you might not have understood it. Yes, it is a dot class that happens to have an NPC following it around. Pets are no more than a glorified, click and forget dot.

[Rhas]

That is basically what I said? I guess if you don't know how Warlock operates in WoW you might not have understood it. Yes, it is a dot class that happens to have an NPC following it around. Pets are no more than a glorified, click and forget dot.

At best I played Wow for maybe a couple weeks. It was really easy to forget all about it lol (was just putting it into FF terms ;P)

[Jynx]

Lore wise it's fine. A warrior can still do the marauder quests and when done be sent off to the war npc to find his true calling. Scholar and summoner are a slight different beast but could just share the same quest line up to the job branch.

They did this in 1.0 with blacksmith and armorer.

[FranSeara]

I hope they leave classes in the game. I still play classes ( I know not as good) but I like to have fun in game and solo fates as a class.

[Sylve]

Lore wise there should only be one Maggie.

Lore wise there's only one other Azure Dragoon aside you currently.

Lore wise there's only one x (job) currently.

As much as SE wants to lord lore reasons, gameplay breaks the lore significantly when you actually think about it. They are removing classes in an indirect way, by making them not required for new jobs which can become a trend. Technically when you think about the lore, the jobs shouldn't exist along side classes, meaning being a 30 Lancer shouldn't mean I can become a Dragoon. Also: Musketeer.

Maggie is the Prototype. After you complete the events of the Main Story, Magitek Armors are recovered and converted for other Adventurers.

There are many Dragoons, those being other Adventurers, while your own Character is the Azure Dragoon.
Although if you paid attention to the Job Quest Dialogue you would read that there are technically 2 Azure Dragoons, yourself and the Dragoon you run into during the questlines.

Lol, After the Player rediscovers the lost Magicks of the Scholar through the Job Quests, the Lala you work with to uncover those Magicks heads to the Arcanists Guild and provides the ancient Magicks to them to teach to skilled Arcanist Adventurers.

Also, i'm quite glad they went with the Machinist for a Gun Job. I was legitimately worried that the Gun Job would just be a Bard with a Gun instead of a Bow. A Machinist has much more scope for variety.

Our current Jobs are 'Rediscovered" Jobs. They existed in the distant past but were lost, or made rare in general.
New Jobs, such as the Dark Knight, Astrologian and Machinist, are NEW Jobs. They don't have Job Crystals whispering forgotten knowledge to the holder. Therefore, they don't need an existing class to make the Job work.

I imagine the Class/Job system itself will still exist. For example, a Dark Knight will have its 1 - 50 Actions listed under "Class" with some of these usable by other Tank Jobs, while the Skills granted by Questlines will be listed under "Job" and be unusable by any other Job.


TL;DR, the Lore supports the existence of multiple Dragoons, Monks, Scholars, Summoners, Warriors, Paladins etc.

[MenmaHonma]

This..I've seen RPG Maker games not even break horribly because of a flag removal lol.

gonna go out on a limb here and say that FFXIV's code is a LITTLE more complex than anything RPGMaker can do

[Eej]

Only by casting aside the class system and move to a pure job system will we be able to finally rid ourselves of the ghost of 1.0. That and the classes are taking up valuable database processing power that is preventing us from having more items in our houses, more inventory spots and personal gardens.