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    Yaltus's Avatar
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    Yaltus Axebreaker
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    I think the biggest problem is the PvP/Marks rewards are terrible in comparison with Frontlines. Yes, a Wolves Den match takes a fraction of the time a Frontlines match takes, but when you take queues into account you are simply wasting your time queuing for Den if you are trying to rank up.

    They should also give a quest marker to the NPC for unlocked synced level 50 Den. Most people don't know it exists. They could probably remove the level 30 and 40 Den matches as well; this would help queue times (less things to queue for) and also help with the XP problem, as the level 30 and 40 Den give less XP than 50.
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    Cidolfas86's Avatar
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    Cidolfas Orlandu
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yaltus View Post
    I think the biggest problem is the PvP/Marks rewards are terrible in comparison with Frontlines. Yes, a Wolves Den match takes a fraction of the time a Frontlines match takes, but when you take queues into account you are simply wasting your time queuing for Den if you are trying to rank up.

    They should also give a quest marker to the NPC for unlocked synced level 50 Den. Most people don't know it exists. They could probably remove the level 30 and 40 Den matches as well; this would help queue times (less things to queue for) and also help with the XP problem, as the level 30 and 40 Den give less XP than 50.
    I can get behind this. Those Wolves Den Challenge logs never seem to get done, and I need the exp for rank ups. Its also more fun than frontlines cause there's less people to screw up.
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidolfas86 View Post
    Its also more fun than frontlines cause there's less people to screw up.
    I think you have things backwards: Less people means more weight on each individual which means that screw ups tend to have a greater effect. That ends up making matches less fun. Combine that with absolutely no turnabout/recovery mechanics and you end up with a very unpopular format. This along with the previous Morale mechanics pretty much killed Wolf's Den once the much more popular i80 Frontlines came out.

    8(2T/2H/2M/2R)vs8(2T/2H/2M/2R) with decent rewards would likely be a more viable Wolf's Den format.
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