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    Red_Wolf's Avatar
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    Quentin Hood
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Twenty is fine dude... Just because you want to have every inch of ground covered does not mean that more is better. You are seriously over estimating the amount of space you have as well as the number of unique objects that are available for placing outside. What do you want to do? Tile your entire lawn? O_o
    What if I did... my house...

    Am I really being trolled over this stupid limit? Unless there is someone on this housing forum who has not capped their outdoor item limit then I don't see how this is even a debate. I don't know how it's even possible to be under the limit. It should have been changed a long time ago.
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    Kyllandra's Avatar
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    Meeka Te
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    What if I did... my house...

    Am I really being trolled over this stupid limit? Unless there is someone on this housing forum who has not capped their outdoor item limit then I don't see how this is even a debate. I don't know how it's even possible to be under the limit. It should have been changed a long time ago.
    I know this post is old, but I just googled "outdoor housing limit" since housing is new to me. I've got a medium plot and 30 items is simply not enough. You want to do some landscaping and add lighting and small bushes so the trees don't look "naked"? You want to add some stepping stones? Yeah, that's not happening. Go and get that giant eye-sore outdoor furnishing if you want your yard to look like it's not straight outta Compton two lawn chairs and a grill. People thinking they're being creative by being needlessly limited is hilarious. But if you came to the forums expecting to find any semblance of logic or reason, you came to the wrong place. What you're going to get is "i don't have a problem with it, so it's not a problem".

    The limit appears to be arbitrary like a lot of things in this game. It's a really beautiful game with lots of things to do but also LOTS of very odd and illogical limitations to go along with it like I can't accept an invite because I've got my retainer window open? Yeah okay. That's just lazy developing imo.

    People are telling you that you can do it, "You just gotta get creative" without realizing that the limitation is actually killing the creative outlet these features COULD provide. Is it Christmas time? You may put up one christmas tree and a couple of snow piles and a snowman but you're going to have to remove several trees and bushes and probably some stepping stones. You're welcome.

    I'm not saying we need a limit in the thousands, but 30? Come on. It's ridiculous and there is no argument for it. Even another 10 items could make all the difference. Most lawns look straight up ugly and barren. Very few people have really made it work. I also think it's ironic for people to be criticizing and outright attacking you for a making a reasonable suggestion. You're a consumer and as a consumer you have a right and responsibility to make suggestions about a product that is NOT working or could be improved significantly.

    I'll attach a couple of images of my yard. I can't stand "naked" looking trees.




    I've put red makers where I'd like to add more things but can't because of the limit. In order for me to put some stepping stones, a bird bath, and more lighting shown in the red markers, I'm going to have to remove the blood bushes. I can just forget that picnic area I was hoping to design.




    But yeah ... that probably does look like the set of Sanford & Son. SMH
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    Last edited by Kyllandra; 02-19-2019 at 01:54 AM. Reason: the images didn't appear

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    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyllandra View Post
    The limit appears to be arbitrary like a lot of things in this game. It's a really beautiful game with lots of things to do but also LOTS of very odd and illogical limitations to go along with it like I can't accept an invite because I've got my retainer window open? Yeah okay. That's just lazy developing imo.
    While I agree that the limit should be increased, this isnt arbitrary but has infact to do with the stress it puts on the servers. The servers for the areas are constantly open, so they need to calculate carefully how many of those sometimes rather complexe objects they can allow to be freely placed in the housing areas without having loading times or the game explode.

    I know to little about servers to tell wether or not they could have used a better system for this, but either way the fact remains that the servers have certain limitations.
    And: adding only 10 items more to the limit might not sound like much - but consider that there are over 2000 plots on each server. Thats not 10 items more, thats 20.000 items more...
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyllandra View Post
    I'm not saying we need a limit in the thousands, but 30? Come on. It's ridiculous and there is no argument for it. Even another 10 items could make all the difference. Most lawns look straight up ugly and barren. Very few people have really made it work. I also think it's ironic for people to be criticizing and outright attacking you for a making a reasonable suggestion. You're a consumer and as a consumer you have a right and responsibility to make suggestions about a product that is NOT working or could be improved significantly.
    They are working on increasing the outdoor limit, however understand while your indoor limit is just items you have placed, the outdoor limit is the sum of your entire ward. You've got the possibility of 730 items along with all the exterior decor of the houses that all have to be sent to each client that loads into the ward. Every 1 outdoor item they add to the limit is actually 30. If we had instanced housing with an outdoor yard space, we could probably be using something akin to the indoor limits each, but that's not the route they took and this is one of the prices of having neighbors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    The servers lol.... if its 20x a stone or 20x the most complicated decoration ingame doesnt matter, they just save item #52455725727 on plot AB, X/Y/Z + rotation. while its sure a lot of data if all plots x 50-60 items, they should still be ok. you cant tell me its possible to LITERALLY flood the lavender beds with flowers, but i cant place 5 patches of em on my ground.
    Static data that's part of the client vs dynamic data users can alter at any time.
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