So does the majority want the relic weapons to carry over into the expansion?

[QiLymePye]

Or look at it like this, most things depreciate value over time due to improvements in design, technology, or functionality. Just because you spent x number of hrs doing this quest when it was popular and everyone was doing said quest around the same time doesnt mean you should punish new players, making them do everything you did to get to where you are with even less resources and abilities because there are way less people doing early relic content than even a year ago. So in other words, just get ready to start a new relic quest. it should be fum with the new jobs available. i cant wait

[MilesSaintboroguh]

It would be silly to have the relics tossed in the garbage at 3.0, considering how they were always two steps behind tomestone weapons and coil weapons.

[niwaar]

If the Zodiac weapons gave us something unique then I would say "definitely yes". But they don't. A lot of people like to compare the Relics in XIV with the Dynamis Relics in XI. They don't really compare. Dynamis (and the other weapons of the ilk) gave access to specific bonuses and weaponskills. Having those upgradeable post 75 was something that needed to happen. XIV's Zodiac/Relic weapons do not have those bonuses. In fact they are pretty damn generic. No job specific benefits/boons etc that make them anymore powerful than weapons that are merely drops in coil. All we get with the Zodiac weapons is a unique skin/glow. Something that we can continue to use at 60 and beyond simply by use of the Glamour system.

We do not need expansion crossing quest content. The Current Main scenario needs to split into a separete Heavensward scenario. The Relic Weapon chain needs to die and a Mythic weapon quest needs to start.

[QiLymePye]

But the problem is that it took soo long to get relic where it is, you have to make it so new players can have the chance to get their relic. only way to do that in a feasible way is to start whole new relic quest line with this expansion. And for balance, you can't make original relic even on par or stronger than new relic or add something that lets you make new relic stronger with using former relic because new people wouldn't be able to get former relic. Ex. New relic has an option to make it stronger/change form/ etc. when turning in old relic at certain lvl. New player wants that, can't get it. Why? because he would have to do a relic quest that very few people are running anymore. No chimera fights, etc. He loses out. Or they could make new relic quest rehash old content to give newbies a chance, but then some players past that will complain. Best thing is to stop current one and start a new one.

[seida]

Not sure why people think it's so crazy that new players might be able to catch up.

ALREADY you can get to working on animus in only a few hours (original relic and atma are incredibly fast now). And there's plenty they can do to make novus and nexus easier, too.

You say no one would be running the dungeons/fights needed, but as long as they keep relic relevant, people WILL still be doing the content. Even now, there are people still working on ALL stages of relic.

Making relic irrelevant to Heavensward would be doing both the players and lore a disservice, I feel.

[QiLymePye]

But the thing is that you don't have to do the relic. You could settle for other weapons that frankly look cooler than the relic weapons at this point. People that are doing the relic now are doing so for personal/vanity reasons. You don't need relic to advance and unfortunately with the expansion coming out, that content will no way near be run as much by players. Newbies are gonna have a hard time doing this relic quest come spring. People are still doing it now because its still semi relevant. It wont be relevant in spring. Hell I only have two relics, only one is past the atma stage. I would rather get primal weapons. fights are more fun and less monotonous and i think those weapons look better and are less time consuming, even with them nerfing the RNG for the relic. My point, its too much to do for something that is time consuming AT THIS STAGE in the games life.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

Do you really think they're going to make the three new jobs start from scratch with i80 weapons?

Do you really think it'll be that hard to upgrade them when the expansion arrives? And the possibility of doing it while you level from 50 to 60 is still there.

[Yumi_umi]

They better start over cuz
- if they continue current relic post 3.0, the wep design will be so wtf SE who designed this wep or omg my eyes tey r melting from the glow.
- too many steps for outdated content catch up
- a wep for casuals will become 100% non casual now tht it "gates" ppl from starting new relic quest in 3.0

If they do keep it:
- expect major nerfs to each step of the old relic
- they will prob give an alternative for ppl to catch up via cash shop, or some kind of token trade in for a wep that will branch out into the new relic quest line.

Gl, lol i'm very sure they won't continue the "casual's" relic quest into 3.0. Cuz tht would turn off so many players tht don't have a zodiac wep lol
- its like i need a coil, ex primal, , tome or crafted wep cuz the casual relic is just too much work now.

[Yumi_umi]

Not sure why people think it's so crazy that new players might be able to catch up.

ALREADY you can get to working on animus in only a few hours (original relic and atma are incredibly fast now). And there's plenty they can do to make novus and nexus easier, too.

You say no one would be running the dungeons/fights needed, but as long as they keep relic relevant, people WILL still be doing the content. Even now, there are people still working on ALL stages of relic.

Making relic irrelevant to Heavensward would be doing both the players and lore a disservice, I feel.

Uh it took more than a year for ppl to progress their relics to where its at now.
Regardless of being gated by waiting for next upgrade patch.
With the rng and gil that requires to make a casual wep tht took more than a year to make is quite absurd for a casual wep.

[Gralna]

Uh it took more than a year for ppl to progress their relics to where its at now.
Regardless of being gated by waiting for next upgrade patch.
With the rng and gil that requires to make a casual wep tht took more than a year to make is quite absurd for a casual wep.

Except that with current nerfs and how easy tomes are to get, getting to animus is a cake walk. I could care less if they nerf animus/novus/nexus/zodiac steps, as long as I don't have to toss my current relic on a retainer to start a new one. Which if they do toss out relics in 3.0, Myself and I'm sure many others won't even bother with whatever new "relic" they come out with.