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  1. #31
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    Merylx's Avatar
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    Alyssa Edwards
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    There should definitely be some kind of shorcut for the people who did get to the final stage of their zodiac relic. I'm sorry, but it was a lot of work for some people, and they should be somewhat rewarded for going through the grind that the relics can be.
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  2. #32
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    Zanzhiz Exaverion
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    2nd post.

    As a solution in my opinion, they could put an Item Level Requirement on the Relic Quest, and when you hit that Item Level you could get your Relic.

    A good suggestion to keep it relevant without short cuts is to just inflate the Item Level of the weapon and require a certain Item Level on the job before you can take the quest.
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  3. #33
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    Zaknafein Do'urden
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    After reading all of the theories of what things they could do to close the gap between the current relic and one that would begin with the expansion, it seems even more likely they would just start a new one. It seems to be the simpler of the possible options. Less work involved to just create whole new weapon and start the upgrades from there.

    I do agree with what Deviant1 said. The relic upgrade process seemed to be a poor excuse for content. A way to force players that wanted this option into doing old content.

    Another thing that I dislike about the relic upgrade quests is that they lack originality. Every job does the exact same steps to upgrade their weapon to the next stage. There is no uniqueness to it. It doesn't feel special when everyone does the same thing. Would have much rather seen something that seemed to be linked to the job. Something like having DRGs kill dragonoid creatures or BLMs fighting the elements to get their upgrades.
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  4. #34
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
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    Personally, I'd like to see them progress onwards, with the addendum that current relic steps are in some format or another noticably nerfed (Atma drop rate changes were a good example - you still have to do it but it's noticably faster now). The longer the quest chain gets the more painful it is for newer players, while older players have already been benefitting from the results of that quest chain for ages.

    This all hinges on what their strategy for progression in Heavensward is going to be. If we're going to hit level 51 and be handed iLvl 130 items right off the cuff I seriously doubt a relic weapon will progress; if instead we can expect that the 51-60 progression will actually end with us in iLvl 130-140 gear as we step into the new postgame, then I could very well see a place for the relics to continue.
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  5. #35
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    I hope not, I think this will be a pain for newcomers who started with Heavensward to start from 2.0.
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  6. #36
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Goblin
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    I'll be very disappointed if Relic doesn't carry over into expansion, for most of us it took a LOT of grinding to get them.

    Also the excuse that if we don't discontinue them, people will never catch up. I've personally seen FC/LS members brand new to the game, get up to novus in less than 2 months. Not really that hard to catch up.
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  7. #37
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    If I had known that relics won't carry over to 3.0, then I would have never bothered with them to begin with.


    They already made Atma easier and I'm sure the rest of the steps will follow.
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  8. #38
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    Gungrave Hellsing
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    yea i think it should carry over but that sucks for me i just completed Ragnarok i will be trading my axe for a firearm.
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  9. #39
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    Flare Oskopnir
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    you think se will expect ppl to get an i80 relic and progress it through zenith,atma,animus,novus,nexus, current stage and 135 stage after expansion? When they can just go CT3 and get encrypted tomestone and boom ilvl 130 weapon?

    Even look further into the future, when we got ilvl 200 weapons, you think se will expect people to spend a week at atma for a piece of crap outdated quest?
    It depend, SE could finally upgrade them into true legendary weapons for 3.0, it's only a matter of decision from Yoshi-P to make them more relevant than "catch-up" weapons like right now.

    The next question will be... Is Yoshi-P ready to "stress"** the player base in order to introduce legendary weapon side quests from il135 relics.

    **Alexander Challenges etc.
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  10. #40
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    Myamoto Musashi
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    Ravana
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    I hope not tbh i think they have run their course.
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