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  1. #191
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    There don't need to be a lore explanation, it's just that little tricky last chromosome and hormones.
    It can be still have a evolution lore. Because every body difference is based on evolution, like men are more muscular because they were the hunters since the stone age. Even in moden days woman like muscular men, because 10k years old instincts say that the muscular men promise safety and meat in the stomach.
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    Last edited by Felis; 12-21-2014 at 03:00 AM.

  2. #192
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    I was actually hoping to have a more slender and delicate male that is androgynous. But I didn't get that, I can still hope for the possibility though.
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  3. #193
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    But one of the thing that differs all the playable races from the beastmen is that they're human/of the race of Men. Most humans don't have that level of dimorphism within closely related groups of males and females (this is why I suggested difference by clan/tribe rather than gender).

    Furthermore, the females are "elegant and mysterious". What previous FF race does that remind us of? Viera? And Yoshi said that he couldn't envision male Viera and wanted to make the genders drastically different. He also mentioned that he felt that the race poll was skewed because Viera were mentioned and that he wanted to make a reptilian race (I can't find the source because google returned too many hits).

    To me, it seems like the Au Ra are an amalgam of all of that.
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  4. #194
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    i feel he did a great jobs there, it's a new race for FF14 only, they can please people that want a cute female or a nice looking male. don't forget we only have seen a few face of them, we can expect to have more rough face for the male. and before judge let see what they offer in the creation (they really need to release a benchmark where it's possible to create a character and see some animation and emote of the race)
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  5. #195
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowe View Post
    That is their opinion, I for one have no problem with the size difference.
    I don't really have a problem with it. I'm not going to get upset and write a petition and rant all over the forums about social justice and sexism. It's not so much the size difference that gets me, but how frail the females appear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    It can be still have a evolution lore. Because every body difference is based evolution, like men are more muscular because they were the hunters since the stone age. Even in moden days woman like muscular men, because 10k years old instincts say that the muscular men promise safety and meat in the stomach.
    That's the kind of thing I was talking about. ^^

    Again, I'm not going to get upset if there isn't any lore, but I enjoy lore and think it'd be fun if there was.

    Overall, I really like new race and will probably try it out.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norna View Post
    Most humans don't have that level of dimorphism within closely related groups of males and females (this is why I suggested difference by clan/tribe rather than gender).
    They aren't human.

    Lore-wise their physical development could be influenced by their spiritual/mystical side. Males pride themselves on being big and strong and this fuels their rapid growth. Females in their culture value elegance and an agelessness and they seem to suddenly mystically stop aging close to the start of sexual maturity.
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    Last edited by Rowe; 12-21-2014 at 03:14 AM.

  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowe View Post
    They aren't human.
    Didn't Titan say so in regards to playable races? And didn't the livestream Lore panel confirm that the playable races can interbreed? None of the other playable races have such big difference in gender between close relations.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    It can be still have a evolution lore. Because every body difference is based on evolution, like men are more muscular because they were the hunters since the stone age. Even in moden days woman like muscular men, because 10k years old instincts say that the muscular men promise safety and meat in the stomach.
    You are doing that in the wrong way, they didn't evolved to be muscular, it's because muscular ones survived more. It's like white animals in snowy lands, they couldn't survive if they were colored, therefor you don't see much colored animals there because every time colored were born, they died and couldn't spread their genes. Evolution is random, it does not have any aim, the lucky ones survive, the others disappear.
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  9. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norna View Post
    Didn't Titan say so in regards to playable races? And didn't the livestream Lore panel confirm that the playable races can interbreed? None of the other playable races have such big difference in gender between close relations.
    While I think it's sexist and dumb regardless:

    Dravanians are basically dragons (the ones we see around Steel Vigil, Stone Vigil, Savara, etc.) who can glamour themselves to look like Hyurs or whatever other race they want. If Au Ra are, in fact, Elezen + Dravanian mix race, they could be taking the form of what is most appealing for each sex (male = muscular, female = petite).

    What I think is actually going on is that female Miqo'te is an incredibly popular race in JP (and in NA/EU), so they decided to make the female of the race incredibly fanservice-y. It's really lazy design, and pretty sexist, but it's what we're getting.
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    Last edited by SpookyGhost; 12-21-2014 at 03:49 AM.

  10. #200
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Skipping all the evolution and other weird discussions to just agree with these points:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    ...Looks like an Elezen with horns and a skin disorder. >w>
    Quote Originally Posted by SekhmetM View Post
    The worst part is that this race looks extremely generic and forgettable. Even in comparison to the humans. The MMO community is used to these asian-looking stereotypical fantasy-fulfilling designs. The Au Ra race looks exactly like it belongs in a cheap Korean F2P.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Au Ra are, in fact, Elezen + Dravanian mix race, they could be taking the form of what is most appealing for each sex (male = muscular, female = petite).

    What I think is actually going on is that female Miqo'te is an incredibly popular race in JP (and in NA/EU), so they decided to make a the female of the race incredibly fanservice-y. It's really lazy design, and pretty sexist, but it's what we're getting.

    Nothing more I have to say about this "new" race at this time.
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